Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-10-21
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Thunderbird Meeting Details
Agenda
Calls For Help
- davida would appreciate assistance on the autoconfiguration branch. (The awesome create-a-new-account screen where you just enter your e-mail address and it figures out most/all of the details for you.) One particular area that could use assistance is handling certificates in the connection detection logic.
Action Items
New
- davida: needs to identify the major work items for thunderbird 3 and break them down by the beta/release they will be in.
- From the Alpha 3 post-mortem (individuals should take your own items and go through them):
- bienvenu: Pick an intermediate milestone for landing most of the big items.
- sipaq: Document details on what should happen before, during and after the string freeze, and the effects on developers at the relevant times.
- wsmwk: Put up tracking bug for issues from releases during litmus tests.
- wsmwk: Need to define what tests (e.g. smoketests/basic functional/unit tests etc) should go where and where they are filed.
- standard8: Generate some gristmill example scripts, and encourage others to use gristmill and file bugs to help improve it.
- standard8: Send mail to release-drivers, do we need some overall cleanup of relnote bugs?
- tb-drivers: Go through current MailNews/TB relnote bugs and work out what is really necessary.
Open
- From the Alpha 3 post-mortem:
- davida: Major items for beta 1 to be nailed down asap
- dmose: drive JS-in-mail discussion
- davida: will escalate issue of separate messaging crash-stats server
Closed
- From the Alpha 3 post-mortem:
- gozer: Ensure there is a bug for server-side Mac Symbols not working for intel builds. bug 459397
- standard8: File bugs for
- hook php generation into builds (file sizes/locales list). bug 460761
- Check product-details interaction with mozillamessaging site. bug 460759
- standard8: File a bug for beta 1 start page and attach files we were going to do for last release. bug 460763
- gozer pinged mrz about separate messaging crash-stats server, davida escalation still open
- dmose did another round of updates on reviewers; see newsgroup discussion
Thunderbird 3 Beta 1
- bienvenu is release driver
- gozer is build engineer
- Proposed String freeze date: 2008-11-13
- Code Freeze date: 2008-11-18
- davida will identify the must-absolutely-have items for beta 1 (part of the new action item planning what must happen by when)
- Proposed intermediate target (to prevent everything either landing at the end or missing) for major items: Friday, October 31
- GloDa
- Definitely land with the pref turning it off, ideally with it turned on
- AutoConfig
- Definitely land as an additional menu item, not yet replacing account wizard
- Kill-RDF
- SeaMonkey note: need to land ASAP as it may cause problems
- Cross-folder views
Thunderbird 3
- Draft Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap identifies major work items on the plate for Tb3 — much of it needs scheduling, owning, breakdown.
- folks interested in helping with front-end stuff, some simple, should ask in #maildev
QA Updates
- crash stats
- no recent Mac crashes from any recent builds
- topcrash queries still being worked, but looks like they are close(?)
- bugday last week 10-16 and this week 10-23 continue focus on dupeme bugs. chart
- notable:
Roundtable
- rkent
- getting review time is increasingly a problem
Status Updates
davida
dmose
- made another update pass through the mail & mailnews module owners
- a bunch of calendar diagnosis work
- reviewed aimScreenName regressions (bug 413260)
- corresponded with LookOut author re ongoing work
- proofread/edited Thunderbird interview for publishing
- more FSOSS talk prep
- more GloDa review
- driving work
- at Toronto office / speaking at FSOSS conference the rest of this week
nth10sd
QA’ed initial Lightning_on_Thunderbird_by_default fun:
- bug 460403 – “ASSERTION: null monitor: ‘mMonitor'”
- bug 460405 – “ASSERTION: Expected only one call!: ‘!gCallCount++'”
- bug 460406 – “ASSERTION: can’t get xpt search path”
- bug 460408 – Shutdown crash at nsXPConnect::GetRuntime()
- bug 460409 – Replace “undefined” with something else
Patch:
(I’ll be posting my JS efforts here since JS whether in mail or not, does seem interesting.)
jcranmer
Standard8
- Reviews & Driving
- Warning: there are several large patches outstanding on my review queue, reviews for big patches may be slow.
- Helping gozer with getting bloat tests set up.
- Finished up alpha 3 stuff (post-mortem).
- Password Manager
- Written some test cases for existing password manager code, will be using to ensure everything is correct when we migrate.
- Also pushed some patches to the qaserver] for standalone pop3 & smtp server.
- Considering using variant of this for extending bloat test code.
- Misc
- bug 459784 Fixed Error: uncaught exception: 2147500034, and switch the default commandline handler to use XPCOMUtils.jsm
asuth
(will not be on the call)
- gloda refactoring/architecture-change implementation completed, just debugging and tying up loose ends.
- need to get exptoolbar/thunderbar happy with the new code
- need to mark existing review items that the refactoring resolved as fixed, plus try and resolve other easily resolved issues. then help drive in to the trunk, initially disabled.
- some testing/debugging to ensure resilience and that we don’t leak memory/resources hang on shutdown.
bienvenu
- Reviews and Driving
- 1.8.1.18 patch landed
- Cross-folder threading patch under review bug 379806
- Kill-rdf repo making progress – SeaMonkey folks are investigating the impact on SeaMonkey.
- Fixed some corrupt message thread issues, bug 457052
emre
- Worked on
- bug 457342: Error handling improvement in auto-sync: in review
- bug 547452: Leaking on shutdown problem: in review
- bug 440794: Async send: Work in progress
- bug 257942: Work in progress, learning a lot about XBL, and XUL. Planning to have the first working demo by the end of this week.
gozer
- Build
- Leak testing looking good, got Linux & OS X builders up on MozillaTest
- Ready to move them to the Thunderbird tinderbox tree?
- Graph Server support should be possible
- Sunbird nightlies should have self-update starting tonight
- hg.mozilla.org problems have caused a lot of breakage this week
- Investigating a way to run our own, safer, hg clone to avoid this
- Systems
- Vancouver office has it’s own dedicated server
- Will become the office phone server among other things, stay tuned.
- Still needs configuring, but it’s running
- It’s under David’s desk
- Mozilla Messaging top-level svn area on svn.mozilla.org
- Still need moving the corporate site content in there
clarkbw
- Leaving Thursday the 23rd for EU_MozCamp_2008
- Working from Barcelona for a few days during the week
- Will be back in Vancouver on night of Wednesday the 29th
- Working on
- Spent a lot of time looking into space management issues w/ POP3
wsmwk
- bug triage
- reviewed all OS=windows server bugs
- reviewed confirmed dataloss bugs – most or all “well defined” bugs are in the blocking-thunderbird3 list as approved – which is great!
- still working profile bugs
- 3.0a3 post mortem meeting
- bugday
beckley
Penelope
- 0.5 beta of Eudora 8 near:
- Synced to TB 3.0a3 source code
- Mac dmg background image updated to work with Applications alias
- Auto-naming filters almost complete: bug 457745
- A couple of importing bugs fixed:
- bug 452296: Old sent box not imported after updating Eudora
- bug 460929: Eudora migration doesn’t show items being imported
KaiRo
rkent
rebron
- Continued work with spreadthunderbird. See progress at: stage.spreadthunderbird.com Big thanks to gozer for the server support and jamey, paul, and ken for cranking out the design and web site elements.
- Continuing work with web site redesign. Completed second round of design reviews and finalizing designs and will be going into design production.
- PR activities.
mkmelin
sipaq
Attendees
dmose, Standard8, bienvenu, emre, gozer, clarkbw, wsmwk, beckley, rkent, rebron, mkmelin, sipaq
