Meeting Notes Meetings notes from the Mozilla community

11-April-2016

Mozilla Project: 2016-04-11

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  • Every Monday @ 11:00am Pacific Time (19:00 UTC)
  • http://air.mozilla.org/ to watch and listen
  • join irc.mozilla.org #airmozilla for backchannel discussion
  • Presenters only: Vidyo room “Brownbags”. Do not use this room if you’re not planning to speak.
  • Dial-in: conference# 8600
    • People with Mozilla phones or softphones please dial x92 Conf# 8600
    • US/Toll-free: +1 800 707 2533, (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (max 48 users at any time)
    • US/California/Mountain View: +1 650 903 0800, x92 Conf# 8600
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    • CA/British Columbia/Vancouver: +1 778 785 1540, x92 Conf# 8600
    • CA/Ontario/Toronto: +1 416 848 3114, x92 Conf# 8600
    • UK/London: +44 (0)207 855 3000, x92 Conf# 8600
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 8600
    • sip:conf8600@mozilla.com or, for some clients, sip:conf8600@anonsip.scl3.mozilla.com (may not work for all rooms)
    • Gmail Chat (requires Flash and the Google Talk plugin): paste +1 650 903 0800 into the Gmail Chat box that doesn’t look like it accepts phone numbers
    • SkypeOut is free if you use the 800 number
    • If you plan on presenting, please join the Vidyo BrownBags 20 minutes prior to the start of the meeting and announce to the A/V Technicians that you will be speaking so that they can confirm your Audio and Video.

All-hands Status Meeting Agenda

Items in this section will be shared during the live all-hand status meeting.

Friends of Mozilla

  • Thanks to Martin Giger for writing up a JPM changelog for the latest update! JPM releases contain crucial bug fixes that matter to developers, and this is the first time someone has documented them.
  • Daniele Scasciafratte, for his Python script for packaging WebExtensions. Tools like these really improve the experience of developing WebExtensions, so thank you!
  • Thanks to Mozilla Tech Speakers Rabimba Karanjai for speaking at IoT Summit in San Diego last week; Gabriel Mičko for participating in the Game of Code hackathon in Luxembourg; and Aya Soufan for her talk at the NablusTechMeetup at The Arabic American University in Palestine, introducing Mozilla contribution opportunities to attendees.

Upcoming Events

Monday, 11 April

Wednesday, 13 April

Project Status Updates (voice updates)

Firefox and Cloud Services

Speaker Location: Toronto

  • Firefox 46 release date has changed to Apr 26

The Firefox release date for Firefox 46 has been pushed out from April 19 to April 26. The corresponding merge dates and releases for beta 47, aurora 48, and nightly 49 will also move to be in sync with 46. If you have any questions please ask Liz Henry (:lizzard in #relman)

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per topic. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation. If you plan on showing a video, you need to contact the Air Mozilla team before the day of the meeting or you will be deferred to the next week. The meeting is streamed in a 4:3 format in order to allow for split screen. If your slides are 16:9 “widescreen” format, please indicate in the “Sharing” column below.

Presenter Title Topic Location Sharing Media More Details
Who Are You? What Do You Do? What are you going to talk about? Where are you presenting from? (Moz Space, your house, space) Will you be sharing your screen? (yes/no, 4:3 or 16:9) Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen Link to where audience can find out more information
An-Me Chung Director of Strategic Partnerships, Mozilla Foundation Mozilla’s new, interactive Web Literacy Map Remotely Yes https://teach.mozilla.org/web-literacy https://teach.mozilla.org/web-literacy
Lucy Harris Program Manager, Participation Team The New NDA Process Toronto Yes https://docs.google.com/a/mozilla.com/presentation/d/1IA7Y-W2z19zmWVSxXe7pvphwPhfQKByoCV_J_4O76MM/edit?usp=sharing https://wiki.mozilla.org/NDA

Welcome!

Let’s say hello to some new Mozillians! If you are not able to join the meeting live, you can add a link to a short video introducing yourself.

Introducing New Volunteers

New Volunteer Introduced by Speaker location New Volunteer location Will be working on
Who is the new volunteer? Who will be introducing that person? Where is the introducer? Where will the new person be contributing from? What will the new person be working on?

Introducing New Hires

New Hire Introduced by Speaker location New Hire location Will be working on
Farhan Patel Stefan Arentz Toronto Canada Remote Mobile UI
Calvin Chan Mike Poessy San Francisco Vancouver End User Services

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Notes and non-voice status updates that aren’t part of the live meeting go here.

Status Updates By Team (*non-voice* updates)

Developer Relations

Developer Relations at Mozilla
Monday, April 11, 2016

Notices:

Planning: MozFest, Tech Speakers v2, Code Schools, Web Compat, content licensing

Events / Talks / Meetups / Trainings

Bugs

Blog posts & Podcasts

Hacks Posts

Calendars

Follow

Help

Engineering Productivity (Automation & Tools)

Engagement

Events

Connected Devices meetup in San Fransisco on April 21st. We have one great speaker planned and are confirming 2 more.

6-April-2016

Mobile: 2016-04-06

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Schedule

Topics for This Week

  • Firefox 46 released delayed by one week

Friends of the Mobile Team

Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs. Make sure friends also get awarded a badge. New contributors are highlighted in bold. Want to update this section?

  • Dinesh Polathula (:dineshp) fixed bug 1257217 – Remove unused method GeckoPreferences.broadcastPrefAction()
  • Jan Henning [:JanH] fixed bug 1044556 – Tabs unloaded from memory occasionally forget their browsing history and current page
  • Jan Henning [:JanH] fixed bug 1260113 – Fix remaining issues with zombification of tabs that are playing audio
  • Jan Henning [:JanH] fixed bug 852267 – Interruption during session restore results in loss of session data
  • Mouaad fixed bug 1255394 – Fix package of Restrictions class
  • litunone fixed bug 1227321 – Settings indentation on tablets is funky

Team Updates

Android platform

snorp, jchen, rbarker, esawin, droeh

Android front-end

margaret, liuche, mcomella, sebastian, ahunt, grisha (nalexander/rnewman)

iOS

bkmunar, bnicholson, fluffyemily, jhugman, sleroux, st3fan

  • Almost ready to cut a tag for v 4.0
  • Landed:
    • Work towards rekeying our strings to make multiple localisations for the same string easier
    • Including bookmarks in awesomebar search results
    • Opening new tabs from the Today widget
    • Sync on Exit
  • In Development
    • Menu – looking at turning menu functionality into easily repeatable actions that can be called from anywhere
    • Improving security of Logins behind passcode/touch ID when app is backgrounded
    • Updating the URL toolbar to include new button layouts
    • Creating a toolbar for the Tab Tray

UX

tecgirl, antlam, gemma, sevaan

  • iOS
    • Bookmarks management
    • Control center
    • Search engine customization
  • UR
    • Hiring
    • Germany research analysis
    • Monthly tablet study

QA

Feature Focus


Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • Dial-in: conference# 99998
    • People with Mozilla phones or softphones please dial x92 Conf# 99998
    • US/Toll-free: +1 800 707 2533, (pin 369) Conf# 99998 (max 48 users at any time)
    • US/California/Mountain View: +1 650 903 0800, x92 Conf# 99998
    • US/California/San Francisco: +1 415 762 5700, x92 Conf# 99998
    • US/Oregon/Portland: +1 971 544 8000, x92 Conf# 99998
    • CA/British Columbia/Vancouver: +1 778 785 1540, x92 Conf# 99998
    • CA/Ontario/Toronto: +1 416 848 3114, x92 Conf# 99998
    • UK/London: +44 (0)207 855 3000, x92 Conf# 99998
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 99998
    • sip:conf99998@mozilla.com or, for some clients, sip:conf99998@anonsip.scl3.mozilla.com (may not work for all rooms)
    • Gmail Chat (requires Flash and the Google Talk plugin): paste +1 650 903 0800 into the Gmail Chat box that doesn’t look like it accepts phone numbers
    • SkypeOut is free if you use the 800 number
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel
  • Mobile Vidyo Room

5-April-2016

Channel: 2016-04-05

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

lizzard, Axel, kmoir, philipp, flod, jst, ritu, calixte, bsmedberg, KaiRo, sylvestre,elan, blassey

Schedule Update

  • Best to push the schedule back for 46. beta->release merge, Apr 18 Merge: Apr 25 Release: Apr 26
    • We missed nearly 3 betas (with beta 1 only being for en-US). Beta 3, beta 6 skipped, beta 7 late (released yesterday)
    • Firefox 47 still planned to release on June 7.
  • The schedule allowed for a 7 week cycle between 46 and 47 release. Changing that to 6 weeks for 47.
  • This helps l10n as well for 46 (delayed by the infrastructure issues last week)
  • more time to iron out any issues with build promotion
  • more time to land crash fixes and react to beta 7/8 changes
  • Better crash data with e10s disabled (experiment cut-off didn’t land till beta 8)
  • If we delay 46, we will do a 45.0.2 (probably tomorrow)
    • Discussed about cancelling it because only 2 weeks away from the release but as we are delaying 46 …
    • A top crash
    • Some web compat issues
    • No single drivers but all combined…
    Bug 1254980 -       Copy-pasting selected HTML from Firefox to a new Thunderbird message (using TB 38) or to BlueGriffon is broken as of Firefox 45
    Bug 1257861 -       Firefox 45 fails to send Cookie header with XHR post requests done from a web worker when third-party cookies are blocked
    Bug 1260961 -       Legitimate CORS requests are blocked by Firefox 45.0.1
    Bug 1258562 -       Crash in dom::MediaSource::Duration - top crash
    Bug 1256442 -       Ship 1.1.x of the Loop system add-on to the release population
    Bug 1258650 -       Yahoo finance chart comparison "overlays" not displayed properly because of bad interaction with scaled clip and mask combo
    Bug 1259482 -       Product image not changing upon selection in Woocommerce/Wordpress

Stability

Aurora

Overall rate: 2.5 – browser: 1.0, content: 1.5 – red

  • signatures of bug 1259699 are the top 3, fix uplifted yesterday

Beta

Overall rate: 1.3 – browser: 1.1, content: 0.2 – red. Not worse than beta 5, anyway (these numbers are still mostly about b5 and earlier)

  • Looks like e10s is still on for a significant amount of people, is there still an ongoing experiment? Yes, it turns off in beta 8
  • bug 1246108 (wasapi_stream_start) is fixed in b7
  • AsyncShutdown crashes are 1.9% of early b7 data
  • bug 1189715 (gfxContext::gfxContext, #6 top crash in b7, 1.4%) still happening in beta 8 although we though we had a fix in bug 1259810

Release

Overall rate: 1.0 – yellow

  • Trusteer crash bug 1255026 definitely decreasing on Windows, but the OS X signature continues to be high #16 or so on release? How bad is bad?
  • Flash game crash bug 1252152 has decreased noticeably last week

QE

Beta

  • 1262149 – Firefox users with OS X 10.11 and QuickTime 7.7.3 cannot playback video content requiring this video player and are prompted to use Safari instead. (all branches – not just beta)
  • I noticed with OS X 10.11, each time I restart (or maybe reboot) I am prompted to make Safari my default browser now (or later) There is no option to say “never ask me again”.

Roundtable

inquiry from sumo: will we go ahead with the plan to deprecate support for os x 10.6-10.8 and migrate those users to esr 45.1.0 instead of 46?
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1255589

Followup on thread about stub install alerting: who is the first line on-call for release issues?

  • liz to ask catlee and lawrence about this. relman, or releng?

Tracked bugs with no owners! Let’s triage on Tuesday since these can potentially block release.

Tracked bugs with no owners, for Thursday triage.


Channel Meeting Details

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 99951 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99951 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: ReleaseCoordination
  • Vidyo Guest URL

Thunderbird: 2016-04-05

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Thunderbird notes 2016-04-05. NOON PT (Pacific). For meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings

Attendees

marcoagpinto, aceman, ba, Jorg K, Paenglab, wsmwk, rkent, mkmelin, makemyday

MAIN FOCUS OF MEETING

  • release 45

Action items from last meetings

Current status / Announcements

Current Release Critical Issues

Leave critical bugs here until confirmed fixed. If confirmed, then remove.

blocking

  • bug 1224846 (esr45) – TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | toolkit/components/osfile/tests/xpcshell/test_read_write.js
    • Fallen?
  • bug 1250723 (esr45) – startup CRASH: C-C TB ASSERTION: can’t be your own parent aka morkTable::AddRow (v45 topcrash)
    • rkent is taking this, reproducible result of exceeding limit of key size – FIXED, LANDED
  • bug 1251120 (esr45)- crash in nsMsgI18NConvertFromUnicode (v45 topcrash) – FIXED, LANDED
  • Bug 1162148 – Warning: Identity file /builds/.ssh/{ffxbld_rsa,tbirdbld_dsa} not accessible: No such file or directory (won’t be needed after esr38, fixed in 42) – status?
  • status TBD – bug 1182629 – update to 38.1.0 from 38.0.1 re-enables disabled Lightning
  • status TBD – bug 1176399 – Multiple master password when GMail OAuth2 is enabled
  • status TBD – bug 1176748 – fix main thread proxies to the migration code (jorgk and m_kato helped in past)
  • proxy (eg causing foxyproxy problems)
  • topcrash bug 1149287 is ** 31% of our crashes** – see below
  • bug 1211291 (esr38, unknown in esr45) – Folders are visible, but messages are not. (?related to bug 1211358 lightning chrome.manifest not updated in 38.3.0 ?)
    • nobody has a clue about what to do with this, leaning toward shipping 38.7.0 with not fix. (wsmwk) agree, ship without fixing it
  • Problems updating to 38.6 to do with Lightning bug 1249894 and its five duplicates. Two users attached their extensions folder.
    • Isn’t this the same as the one above, bug 1211291?

Version 45

  • tracking-tb45 flags: unfixed ?/+ – http://mzl.la/1PMzNiK
  • Items that may need to be checked and tested: gtk3, windows 10

Releases

  • Past
    • 45.0b1 2016-02-04 with GTK3 built but updates not enabled
    • 45.0b2 with GTK2 2016-02-19
    • 45.0b3 (shelved)
    • 38.6.0 2016-02-12
    • 38.7.0
    • 38.7.1 (shelved)
    • 38.7.2

Lightning

Past releases:

  • 4.0.7.2 (bundled)
  • 4.0.5.2 (AMO)

Upcoming releases:

  • 4.0.8 (bundled) (TB 38.6)
  • 4.7.0 – bug 1225778 (TB 45 tracking)

Round Table

Jorg K

  • Landed in last four weeks:
  • Awaiting review:

wsmwk

  • triage Neil review and NI requests
  • releases

rkent

  • donation website is “live” but procedures to report and spend income are not established. Meeting on Thursday 2016-04-07 with MoFo admin on this.
  • beginning to investigate bug 1260724 IMAP failing with godaddy servers in TB 38
  • investigated and landed bug 1250723 (esr45) – startup CRASH: C-C TB ASSERTION: can’t be your own parent aka morkTable::AddRow (v45 topcrash)
  • releases
  • I have a huge project to convert ExQuilla to JS (prototype for a possible similar conversion for Thunderbird) that will take the majority of my time for the next six months.

Question Time

rkent, there is no 64-bit version of TB 45 for Windows. It seems only 46+ but the next public will be 52. :( Is there a possibility of compiling 45 in 64-bit?

  • Someone needs to work on the release engineering to figure out to enable those builds.

Help Wanted

  • Accessibility lead
  • Person comfortable (not necessarily technical experts) with Core type issues. Example, graphics to guide bug 1195947 Thunderbird hardware acceleration (HWA) issues to be resolved
  • Lead to run the donation campaign after TB 45 is released.

4-April-2016

Mozilla Project: 2016-04-04

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  • Every Monday @ 11:00am Pacific Time (19:00 UTC)
  • http://air.mozilla.org/ to watch and listen
  • join irc.mozilla.org #airmozilla for backchannel discussion
  • Presenters only: Vidyo room “Brownbags”. Do not use this room if you’re not planning to speak.
  • Dial-in: conference# 8600
    • People with Mozilla phones or softphones please dial x92 Conf# 8600
    • US/Toll-free: +1 800 707 2533, (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (max 48 users at any time)
    • US/California/Mountain View: +1 650 903 0800, x92 Conf# 8600
    • US/California/San Francisco: +1 415 762 5700, x92 Conf# 8600
    • US/Oregon/Portland: +1 971 544 8000, x92 Conf# 8600
    • CA/British Columbia/Vancouver: +1 778 785 1540, x92 Conf# 8600
    • CA/Ontario/Toronto: +1 416 848 3114, x92 Conf# 8600
    • UK/London: +44 (0)207 855 3000, x92 Conf# 8600
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 8600
    • sip:conf8600@mozilla.com or, for some clients, sip:conf8600@anonsip.scl3.mozilla.com (may not work for all rooms)
    • Gmail Chat (requires Flash and the Google Talk plugin): paste +1 650 903 0800 into the Gmail Chat box that doesn’t look like it accepts phone numbers
    • SkypeOut is free if you use the 800 number
    • If you plan on presenting, please join the Vidyo BrownBags 20 minutes prior to the start of the meeting and announce to the A/V Technicians that you will be speaking so that they can confirm your Audio and Video.

All-hands Status Meeting Agenda

Items in this section will be shared during the live all-hand status meeting.

Friends of Mozilla

  • Elio Qoshi, Kristi Progri, Ardian, Redon and the rest of the Mozilla Albania community who hosted and attended Moz Tech Speaker weekend workshop in Tirana, Albania.

Upcoming Events

Monday, 04 April

Wednesday, 06 April

Project Status Updates (voice updates)

IT/Ops

Speaker Location: Mountain View

VidyoDesktop 3.6.3 for Windows and OS X live on the Vidyo Portal today.

  • Active Speaker Icon
  • Multiple Missed Call log
  • Improved Far End Camera Control
  • Improved CPU handling
  • General Stability and Security fixes

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per topic. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation. If you plan on showing a video, you need to contact the Air Mozilla team before the day of the meeting or you will be deferred to the next week. The meeting is streamed in a 4:3 format in order to allow for split screen. If your slides are 16:9 “widescreen” format, please indicate in the “Sharing” column below.

Presenter Title Topic Location Sharing Media More Details
Who Are You? What Do You Do? What are you going to talk about? Where are you presenting from? (Moz Space, your house, space) Will you be sharing your screen? (yes/no, 4:3 or 16:9) Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen Link to where audience can find out more information
Mike Hoye I talk too much. Engineering Onboarding Redux: The Reduxening Mozilla Toronto no none GDocs link.

Welcome!

Let’s say hello to some new Mozillians! If you are not able to join the meeting live, you can add a link to a short video introducing yourself.

Introducing New Volunteers

New Volunteer Introduced by Speaker location New Volunteer location Will be working on
Who is the new volunteer? Who will be introducing that person? Where is the introducer? Where will the new person be contributing from? What will the new person be working on?

Introducing New Hires

New Hire Introduced by Speaker location New Hire location Will be working on
Thom Chiovoloni Chris Karlof SF Mozilla Boston Firefox Sync
Jess Lin Lisa Gray San Antonio, TX San Francisco Office WPR Office Service Coordination to keep SFO office running smoothly.
Abbie Woods Lisa Gray San Antonio, TX Mountain View Office All things WPR that make MTV a great MozSpace.
Jennie Hayes Lori Jashinsky MTV Vancouver WPR
Johann Hofmann Panos Astithas Recording Berlin Firefox Desktop
Janis Greenspan Mary Ellen Muckerman San Francisco San Francisco Brand Strategy & Marketing
Andreas Farre Andrew Overholt Toronto Sweden Remote Platform Engineering

Introducing New Interns

New Intern Introduced by Speaker location New Hire location Will be working on
Edouard Oger Chris Karlof SF SF Firefox Sync

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Notes and non-voice status updates that aren’t part of the live meeting go here.

Status Updates By Team (*non-voice* updates)

Developer Relations

Events / Talks / Meetups / Trainings

  • Jason Weathersby is attending MS Edge conf in SF
  • Jen Simmons is speaking at An Event Apart Seattle and at Respond Sydney & Melbourne later this week
  • Dietrich and Tech Speaker Rabimba Karanjai are speaking at OpenIoT Summit in San Diego
  • Bill Walker speaking at Web Audio Conf in Atlanta
  • Belén Albeza and Sole Penadés speaking at Word Camp London next weekend
  • Rails Girls Summer of Code – team applications due date is on April 10. Mozilla is sponsoring! Rails Girls SOC

Bugs

Hacks Posts

Calendars

Follow

Engineering Productivity (Automation & Tools)

Engagement

31-March-2016

Channel: 2016-03-31

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Attendees

  • ioanachiorean, teovermesa, petruta, flaviu, liz, kmoir, calixte, Bogdan, Pike, Cornel, jorge, blassey, ryanvm, lmandel, philipp, ritu, MihaiB

Schedule Update

https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/channel-meeting

  • potential 45.0.2
    • Bug 1254980 – Copy-pasting selected HTML from Firefox to a new Thunderbird message (using TB 38) or to BlueGriffon is broken as of Firefox 45
    • Bug 1257861 – Firefox 45 fails to send Cookie header with XHR post requests done from a web worker when third-party cookies are blocked
    • Bug 1260961 – Legitimate CORS requests are blocked by Firefox 45.0.1
    • Bug 1258562 – Crash in dom::MediaSource::Duration – top crash
    • Bug 1256442 – Ship 1.1.x of the Loop system add-on to the release population
    • Bug 1258650 – Yahoo finance chart comparison “overlays” not displayed properly because of bad interaction with scaled clip and mask combo
    • Bug 1259482 – Product image not changing upon selection in Woocommerce/Wordpress
  • beta 6 not released
    • Multiple betas skipped this cycle. May want to start looking at schedule changes in advance in case we decide to postpone Fx46 shipping.

Add-ons

  • Bug 1259458 – Upcoming Java plugin block

Stability

Aurora

crash rate: 2.4 (red) – browser 1.03, content 1.37
Spikes:

  • Always a lot of crashes due to EXCEPTION_STACK_OVERFLOW
  • they’re addressed in bug 1259699 which is fixed in mozilla-central

Beta

crash rate: 1.28 (red) – browser 1.1, content 0.17
Spikes:

  • Bug 1243326 – hang | WaitForSingleObjectEx | WaitForSingleObject | npjp2.dll@0xb966 (crash from java plugin)
    • crash number rose by ~100%
    • #4 in plugin topcrash
    • like in 45.0.1, the spike occurred the 2016-03-28
  • Bug 1124532 – npswf32_16_0_0_228.dll@0x35acbd (crash from Shockwave Flash plugin)
    • rose by ~800% (from 13 to 122 crashes)
    • the spike occurred the 2016-03-29
    • #7 in plugin topcrash
  • Bug 1158189 – shutdownhang | WaitForSingleObjectEx | WaitForSingleObject | PR_WaitCondVar | nsThread::ProcessNextEvent | NS_ProcessNextEvent | mozilla::net::nsHttpConnectionMgr::Shutdown
    • #2 in topcrash
    • rose by ~50% between 2016-03-27 and 2016-03-30

Release

crash rate: 1.04 (yellow)

Spikes:

  • Bug 1243326 – hang | WaitForSingleObjectEx | WaitForSingleObject | npjp2.dll@0xb966 (crash from java plugin)
    • crash number rose by ~100%
    • #5 in plugin topcrash

QE

Nightly

Aurora / Dev Edition

  • [Cornel] Mid-aurora feature sign offs were completed on Monday.
  • [Bogdan] per-monitorDPI feature – Waiting for devs to fix issues that we reported during mid-Aurora signoff.
  • [mobile][ioana] https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/47#Features_Status – we will try to give tomorrow our first mid-aurora signoff for features.

Beta

  • [Cornel] 46.0b6-build1 was successfully signed off even if it’s now decided to skip it due to the infrastructure issues.
  • [Cornel] Completed the Stub installers and migration testing.
  • [Cornel] e10s testing on 46 is almost completed (about 95%) – looking good, no e10s related issues were found this far.
  • [Cornel] gtk3 testing is in progress; several issues were found and are under investigation – http://tinyurl.com/jykh6o6.
  • [Cornel] WebRTC testing will be performed next week.
  • [Cornel] 46 Beta 7 Testday tomorrow – http://tinyurl.com/hpz4wgt. – focus on APZ and Image Support
  • [Paul] Started testing the Pocket System Add-on on 46b6
  • [Petruta] APZ – Currently working on verifying fixes on 46 and 47; The Engineering QA team may run a set of tests on Aurora 47 before the merge to beta
  • [mobile][ioana] We signed off 46 Beta 6 but as we all know was not released https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/46/Beta/6

Roundtable

  • [RyanVM] SV e10s testing priorities
    • We could run a more limited set of tests for beta 47 e10s testing.
    • Ryan’s low end laptop plan. XP too?
  • Brad is suggesting we do APZ testing on Fx47

Tracked bugs with no owners! Let’s triage. (For next tuesday)

Special Topics

Aurora/Beta Feature Review

  • Fx47 (when it goes to Beta)
    • An experiment add-on in bug 1248813 for Flash Block experiment, starts on 47.0b1

Channel Meeting Details

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 99951 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99951 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: ReleaseCoordination
  • Vidyo Guest URL

30-March-2016

Mobile: 2016-03-30

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Schedule

Friends of the Mobile Team

Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs. Make sure friends also get awarded a badge. New contributors are highlighted in bold. Want to update this section?

  • Andi-Bogdan Postelnicu fixed bug 1258703 – [Static Analysis][Dereference null return value] In function Reporter::receivedGpsMessage
  • Dinesh Polathula (:dineshp) fixed bug 1255206 – Change and unify mentions of “tap” to “touch”
  • Francesco Lodolo [:flod] fixed bug 1257818 – [l10n] Build tools: add optional parameter with list of locales to update to update-xliff.py
  • Mark Capella [:capella] fixed bug 1243542 – Ensure consistent text selection handles everywhere
  • Mark Capella [:capella] fixed bug 1255819 – SelectionHandler needs to use correct type=number <input> field to support copy/paste
  • hennes fixed bug 1162843 – Allow searching for multiple non-consecutive words in a title.

Team Updates

Android platform

snorp, jchen, rbarker, esawin, droeh

Android front-end

margaret, liuche, mcomella, sebastian, ahunt, grisha (nalexander/rnewman)

iOS

bkmunar, bnicholson, fluffyemily, jhugman, sleroux, st3fan

  • Released 3.0! (60+ bugs fixed – features, bugs, improvements)
  • Discussion about landing Bidirectional Bookmark Sync on iOS
  • Converted to Xcode 7.3 / Swift 2.2 – Now a requirement for building
  • Starting our 4.0 cycle in the coming week already
    • Menu / Toolbar (although will most likely spill into 5.0)
    • Sync on Exit
    • Today Widget
    • History UI improvements
    • Combining history related home panels
    • Ability to accept (temp or permanent) invalid SSL certificates
    • Including bookmarks in awesomebar results
    • Telemetry core ping

UX

tecgirl, antlam, gemma, sevaan

  • We’re hiring!
  • Android
    • antlam back from PTO
    • Bugmail
  • iOS
    • Bookmarks management
    • Site certs
    • Rate This App
  • UR
    • Germany research analysis in TO

QA

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29-March-2016

Channel: 2016-03-29

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Attendees

lizzard, sylvestre, Kevin, Milan, Calixte, Kim, philipp, Jlund, ritu, lmandel

Schedule Update

  • Updates disabled
  • Potential 45.0.2
    • Bug 1257861 – Firefox 45 fails to send Cookie header with XHR post requests done from a web worker when third-party cookies are blocked
    • Bug 1259482 – Product image not changing upon selection in Woocommerce/Wordpress
    • Bug 1258650 – Yahoo finance chart comparison “overlays” not displayed properly
  • 46 Beta 6 slightly delayed

Stability

Aurora

crash rate: 2.7 (red) – browser 1.3, content 1.39
big spike in the last few days

Spikes:

  • signatures: _chkstk, UnmarkGrayTracer::onChild, js::ObjectGroup::traceChildren, JS::CallbackTracer::onShapeEdge
    • _chkstk: crashes rose from 0 (2016-03-26) to 248 (2016-03-28)
    • for the others: crashes were at 0 (2016-03-25) and rose to respectively 248, 99, 54 (2016-03-28)
    • the crash reason is always EXCEPTION_STACK_OVERFLOW
    • in all the cases, the backtrace is useless (reduced to one element)
    • https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1259699 has been fixed (in Nightly) and we should have better information (signature or backtrace) to fix these issues
      • If the fix is helping, will request uplift to Aurora

Topcrash

Beta

crash rate: 1.33 (red) – browser 1.17 , content 0.16

Topcrashes in beta 5

  • Bug 1246108 – Core::Audio/Video:Playback Drained AudioStreams should not be restarted (kinetik) This should land with beta 6
  • Bug 1158189 – Core::Networking:HTTP shutdownhang in mozilla::net::nsHttpConnectionMgr::Shutdown()
    • Bug 1259089 – Set a socket nonblocking in sts, just to be sure (dragana) (no fix yet)
  • Bug 1255737 – Async shutdown crash with “MediaStreamGraph shutdown: blocking on msg thread”
    • backed out MediaStreamgraph changes. May need help with Places crashes still.

Spikes:

  • bug 1158189: rose from 0 (2016-03-24) to 472 (2016-03-28) Shutdown hangs mentioned above in Core::Networking

Release

crash rate: 1.16 (red)

trusteer rapport crashes still in high numbers (responsible for ~6% of all crashes on 45.0.1) – bug 1255026

Spikes:

  • bug 1132499 – signature NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16::NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16, increase around 50% (from 144 to 201) between 2016-03-23 and 2016-03-28, the bug has been fixed 24 days ago
    • not uplifted to Beta46

Topcrashes

  • bug 1259387 – signature js::AutoEnterOOMUnsafeRegion::crash | js::GCHashSetOperations<T>::lookupForAdd, appeared 2016-03-24, right now it’s #37 in topcrash
  • bug 1260470 – signature OOM | unknown | js::AutoEnterOOMUnsafeRegion::crash | js::gc::StoreBuffer::MonoTypeBuffer<T>::trace, appeared 2016-03-24, right now it’s #34 in topcrash
  • bug 1258562 – signature dom::MediaSource::Duration, #3 in topcrash and fixed in nightly, aurora and beta
    • Will probably take it in 45.0.2 if we do one

QE

Beta

Perf regression of 10% reported (not yet reproduced?) between 45.0.1 and beta (2)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254684

Roundtable

  • If relman adds the blocking flag to a bug, please don’t remove it. Relman should remove it.

Special Topics

Aurora/Beta Feature Review

  • mid-Beta check on what’s new page: Asked Winston, Jennifer, and cmore. No what’s new page is planned.
  • Aurora47
    • Plan to enable VP9 on fast machines
    • Waiting for Mid-aurora sign offs on e10s and APZ.

Post-Mortem (Tues 2wks from GA Release)


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SeaMonkey: 2016-03-29

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • IanN to review members mailing-list and council appointments (IanN to talk to mcsmurf about members list)

OPEN

CLOSED

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Callek: Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I’m hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I’m realistic expecting it won’t be until January at earliest any time soon.
    • Ewong will set up a cron job to do semi regular builds on the loaner machine.
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 VS2015 would likely solve this and other bustages. frg 03/27: moot point to do it. m-c switched to VS2015 via tooltool on 03/25. See my section.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Even en-US builds have stopped again. The latest trunk nightlies were 2.45a1 dated 8-Mar-2016 for W32, L32 & L64, and 2.43a1 dated 6-Jan-2016 for Mac. ** bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [29th March 2016]
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.40 is out.
  • We are skipping SeaMonkey 2.41
  • Currently planning for 2.42.

Previously on Buffy The Vampire Slayer:

  • IanN suggests we should follow the Thunderbird release model, doing releases off the ESR-* branch but also the occasional comm-beta “release”. L10N Translations might be problematic however rsx11m says using ESR would be “safer” with regard to more stability on releases and not having to cope immediately with bustages from mozilla side, but may require some “deal” to get l10n-relevant minor patches into the releases before the next ESR branch is coming. If you have a patch that applies cleanly from comm-beta to comm-esr45, translations should be done already (of course, that’s just simple patches such as label changes or adding a checkbox). rsx11m would go with {comm,mozilla}-esr45 and merge any “safe” patches from comm-beta but that may need some talking to l10n if string changes are involved.
  • Adriank thinks we need an *own* build infra separate from MoCo. What is needed is a buildbot (Adrian use Jenkins), a Windows, Linux, and OSX virtual machine.
  • Frg: Chatzilla locale generation still broken. Frg and Adrian to deal with this.
  • SeaMonkey 2.40 final (tracking bug 1233615) was partially released March 14, 2016
  • Next merges are scheduled for April 18 (beta → release: April 11).
    • comm-release default is now on SM 2.42.
    • comm-release and mozilla-release are now on 45.0.
    • comm-esr45 and mozilla-esr45 are now current.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings (outdated), altertative list started (currently Rainer Bielefeld is the only active maintainer)
  • Lightning betas are up for 2.40, 2.41, and 2.42.
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
    • The AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, seems mature. (It had 9 successive revisions between 27 September and 3 October, and no change since then.) It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a “built-in extension” besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane; the extension actually does much more than the bug’s Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid “You need Firefox 10 or later” popups.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Ratty has the Firefox Devtools up and running. We can now use the Firefox Devtools debugger in both remote and local mode.
    • Venkman is now totally retired R.I.P..

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.40

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (6)
targeted (2)
fixed (14)

2.Next

  • We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 1209875 did break any builds of 2.41+ containing a localized ChatZilla. To be fixed in bug 1210791 [checkin-needed]
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Changes to Safe Browsing. Frg has a patch ready for check-in in bug 1250600 .
    • Introduction of a cloud-based certificate revocation list system for blocklists bug 1227956. rsx11m has a patch in bug 1259947 mirroring TB changes (bug 1248557 and friends).
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, Will be fixed in SeaMonkey bug 1222816.
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743.
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
      • mozilla-central bug 1189918 and bug 1190465 allow to fork Toolkit style pages for the classic/default/modern theme without harming theme developers. SeaMonkey bug 1022354 will move theme overrides to the theme manifests.
        • affected pages that should be reverted are about:config [bug 1222816], about:addons [bug 1222817], about:support [bug 1222818] (look ok in Modern but hurt in the Default theme).
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.
  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
    • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there’s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.
    • About specific aspects of this problem, see: bug 1230796, bug 1230804, bug 1230806 and maybe more.
    • [Ratty] The url for the discovery pane is set in a pref. Instantbird points the URL to a chrome XUL document. If we do this we don’t have to worry about the python stuff.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 36 new, 6 fixed, 6 triaged.

  • good triaging effort, Rainer Bielefeld has been busy filing and verifying bugs.
  • Mozilla wants to separate Firefox and Thunderbird, in infrastructure and organizationally, which will likely affect SeaMonkey as well
  • Fundamental core features Firefox/Mozilla plans to remove:
    • bug 1222546 Product plan: remove support for heavyweight themes
      • If effective for all Toolkit applications, would render most 3rd-party themes disfunct
      • No sufficiently plausible specifics provided ‘why’ full themes ‘must’ no longer be supported
      • No clear statements by the Firefox drivers, bug has been restricted for comments since
      • Discussion diverted to https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/planning-the-future-of-complete-themes/
      • See bsmedberg’s post #14, targeted for Gecko 49 (April 2016).
      • may prohibit Modern theme being shipped with or installed in SeaMonkey
      • removal is “decided” without any clear alternative envisioned
    • The toolkit help viewer is going away. Neil is working on resuscitating the old XPFE help viewer which apparently has more features.

Open reviews/flags:
64 review
5 super-review
1 ui-review
12 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • Encrypted Media Extensions / Digital Rights Management
      • bug 1127784 added a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • more work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox
  • What about declaring linux-x86_64 builds found at seamonkey-project.org and at ftp.m.o as “official” ?Tonymec (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2015 (PDT)
    • On October 7 two people asked in #seamonkey at a few minutes’ interval when there would be “official” 64-bit SM builds for Linux. I pointed them to the x86_64 release at the bottom of the “Other languages” release page for 2.38 and to the x86_64 2.40a2 aurora & 2.41a1 trunk builds at the bottom of the ftp.m.o nightly/latest-comm-* pages but they said these were not “official”.
    • How are we going to get out of the following vicious circle? 64-bit builds are not “official” because too few users, and users don’t install them (some even prefer compiling their own) because they aren’t “official”.
    • Maybe change the online documentation? (perhaps as part of bug 1208822 “System Requirements page needs update”?)
    • [ewong:] what’s the prerequisites of making the Linux64 builds ‘official’ aside for the issue of getting the tests done for Linux64; but our testing infrastructure is busted. bug 1209378

— Discussion on locale translations for DOMi and Chatzilla —

  • [frg] More or less obsolete items removed 03/27. One l10n bug remaining but hopefully fixed soon.
  • [IanN] Ratty: do we need to start looking at how to overlay Chatzilla and DOMi on top of the TB’s new merged (c-c + m-c) repository?
  • [Ratty] Not sure. I hope we can continue doing what we have been doing using nested repositories. However in the new merged repository. The comm-central client.py is replaced by the mozilla-central client.py so I don’t know how this will work.
  • [IanN] Merging DOMi into comm-central would make SeaMonkey releases easier. We just need to sort out locale building for DOMi.

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ewong

  • Working On:
    • bug 1190773 – backend change for tooltool process to support the new tooltool repo.
    • bug 1260993 – change our Linux* builders to use gcc 4.8.5.
    • waiting to see if the ‘fix’ for the 2.39 to 2.40 update for Win64 clients work.

frg

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1055954 popup exceptions are not added. Please review and let me know if it’s ok. Contains string changes.
  • bug 1188348 data manager: domains invisible for Permissions, Preferences, Passwords. Contains string changes and hopefully will not miss the next cycle. I am done here and any changes will be need to put in new bugs.
  • bug 1251368 SeaMonkey cookie code needs to be updated to take into account mozilla-central bug 1245184. Might work without checking bug 1188348 in first but not tested. 2.44 and up affected.
  • bug 1250600 Update Safebrowsing in SeaMonkey for recent changes in Firefox. Follow up bug of bug 920951 Update SeaMonkey Safebrowsing preferences to sync with Mozilla-Central. Old SeaMonkey API key does no longer work but the lists are downloaded. Ratty found out that Google throttles in this case.
  • bug 1210791 Get rid of XULPPFLAGS in ChatZilla. ChatZilla l10n xpi will be ok afterwards for c-r and up.

Working on:

  • bug 1258226 Remove debugQA from SeaMonkey. Input please if this should be up for reviewed if we should keep debugQA in it’s current state.
  • bug 1238767 Localized Suite build fails in DebugQA: Stalled. I think the l10 build system might be responsible and tries to pick up files from the wrong location. Adrian Kalla thinks I need to do an l10 merge only. I disagree because the xpi only explicitly supports en-US builds. Will be a mood point if above bug is accepted.

Titbits:

  • c-r and up should build now out of the box. bug 1258206 is in as a successor for bug 1167346 comm-aurora builds are not building due to DOMi and ChatZilla pulling from revisions earlier…. It still needs to be checked into c-c so that the next merge won’t break it again.

Other things on my mind:

  • SeaMonkey needs reviewers. Ratty is not SuperRatty and can do it alone :)
  • –enable-optimize=-O2 should be used for Windows release builds. Linux gcc –enable-optimize optimizes for speed. With VS2013 it optimizes for size. Resulting O2 Windows build feels a lot snappier.
  • Alternate distribution path for SeaMonkey should be evaluated. It still builds and works fine but without builds in the hands of users doesn’t make much sense.
  • SeaMonkey compiles fine under VS2015 Update 2 RC with Windows 10 SDK. x86 builds produced here still works fine under Windows XP SP3. x64 build is stable for daily use in my eyes (same with VS2013).
  • m-c switched to VS2015 Update 1 and Windows 10 SDK on 03/25/2016!
  • bug 1244467 Localized Builds: ChatZilla language pack missing from SeaMonkey installer package will not be fixed by bug 1210791
  • Aero Peek is broken in c-b and up see bug 1256714. I didn’t find something which could have caused this. Got it back briefly yesterday in 2.45a1 so might be e10s related (something asynchronous timing out?).
  • When looking in Bugzilla what to do next I found a lot of in my eyes obsolete bugs in a short time. Who can close them. Tracking them in a meta bug?
Comment: I am working on this problem. We have lots of UNCONFIRMED Bugs, many of them old /obsolete. But in my systematic review (may be 3 … 5 each week) I find (approximately) 25% of these old bugs real bugs, half of them Core half of them really SeaMonkey bugs. With this speed review still will take 2 more years or so, but I think it’s better than a mass-close. — Rrbd (talk) 10:53, 29 March 2016 (PDT)

IanN

  • Usual localising, testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
    • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Ratty

Fixed:

  • bug 1235805 Rollup patch: Add preload content policy types for images (bug 1048048) Use the loading document’s principal to populate loadInfo for Favicons instead of using systemPrincipal (bug 1119386) nsITaskbarPreview::Invalidate no longer throws when not visible.
  • bug 1255354 Create options to open the data manager and the addon manager in standalone windows instead of a browser tab.
  • bug 1255538 Fix trailing \whitespace and \tabs in tasksOverlay.js.
  • bug 1257348 GCLI close button disappears when hover [Devtools].
  • bug 1258161 XML parsing error in omni.ja!/chrome/toolkit/content/global/netError.xhtml [Toolkit].
  • bug 1254987 Fix comm-central fallout from |bug 1254410 Include app-specific configure files according to --enable-application/--enable-project|

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1222816 Restore about:config UI (Config Editor) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit’s Project Chameleon styles.
  • bug 1223341 Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI.
  • In Progress:
  • TODO:
  • bug 1236982 Simplify SeaMonkey CSS for Lightning toolbar buttons.
  • bug 1174466 Popup blocker: Need to allow popups opened by loaded javascript: URIs from the location bar. Regression from bug 896947.
  • bug 1116223 Thunderbird: Move overrides to default theme chrome.manifest.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Pushed to comm-central:

  • bug 851898 Zoom will not go past 300%, used to be able to zoom to +/-800%.
  • bug 1251874 Allow modification of minimum/maximum zoom levels in Content preference pane.
  • bug 1258295 Remove remnants of Security Policies preferences pane.
  • bug 1259422 Re-order entities in preferences.dtd to match Preferences dialog and remove unused strings.

Posted WIP patch:

  • bug 1259947 Investigate support of OneCRL in SeaMonkey.

Filed:

  • bug 1260315 Make modification of minimum/maximum zoom levels effective immediately in already opened windows.
  • bug 1256660 Donation link on “Development” page needs to point to the new “Donate” page.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • Got level-3 commit access now! bug 1257034.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

Any other business?

  • Daylight Saving Time in Northern America started on March 13; then Summer Time on March 27; winter time on 3 April in NZ and some parts of Australia; no clock change in East and South Asia; etc.

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

28-March-2016

Mozilla Project: 2016-03-28

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm
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  • http://air.mozilla.org/ to watch and listen
  • join irc.mozilla.org #airmozilla for backchannel discussion
  • Presenters only: Vidyo room “Brownbags”. Do not use this room if you’re not planning to speak.
  • Dial-in: conference# 8600
    • People with Mozilla phones or softphones please dial x92 Conf# 8600
    • US/Toll-free: +1 800 707 2533, (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (max 48 users at any time)
    • US/California/Mountain View: +1 650 903 0800, x92 Conf# 8600
    • US/California/San Francisco: +1 415 762 5700, x92 Conf# 8600
    • US/Oregon/Portland: +1 971 544 8000, x92 Conf# 8600
    • CA/British Columbia/Vancouver: +1 778 785 1540, x92 Conf# 8600
    • CA/Ontario/Toronto: +1 416 848 3114, x92 Conf# 8600
    • UK/London: +44 (0)207 855 3000, x92 Conf# 8600
    • FR/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 8600
    • sip:conf8600@mozilla.com or, for some clients, sip:conf8600@anonsip.scl3.mozilla.com (may not work for all rooms)
    • Gmail Chat (requires Flash and the Google Talk plugin): paste +1 650 903 0800 into the Gmail Chat box that doesn’t look like it accepts phone numbers
    • SkypeOut is free if you use the 800 number
    • If you plan on presenting, please join the Vidyo BrownBags 20 minutes prior to the start of the meeting and announce to the A/V Technicians that you will be speaking so that they can confirm your Audio and Video.

All-hands Status Meeting Agenda

Items in this section will be shared during the live all-hand status meeting.

Friends of Mozilla

  • Thanks to Alaa, Aya, Diwanshi, Dorothée, Gloria, Ioana, Kritika, Lara, and Manel for their active participation in Pilot 3 of Mozilla Tech Speakers, a program from Developer Relations for contributors to work on technical presentation skills.
  • Thanks to everyone (staff & contributors!) who wrote for Mozilla Hacks in March: Jonathan Hasbun, Ehsan Akhgari, Tim Nguyen, Brian Grinstead, Potch, Luke Wagner, Sole Penadés, Kevin Ngo, Casey Yee, Chris Waite (upcoming).

Upcoming Events

Monday, 28 March

Tuesday, 29 March

Wednesday, 30 March

Project Status Updates (voice updates)

IT/Ops

Speaker Location: Mountain View

VidyoDesktop 3.6.3 for Windows and OS X.

  • Active Speaker Icon
  • Multiple Missed Call log
  • Improved Far End Camera Control
  • Improved CPU handling
  • General Stability and Security fixes

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per topic. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation. If you plan on showing a video, you need to contact the Air Mozilla team before the day of the meeting or you will be deferred to the next week. The meeting is streamed in a 4:3 format in order to allow for split screen. If your slides are 16:9 “widescreen” format, please indicate in the “Sharing” column below.

Presenter Title Topic Location Sharing Media More Details
Who Are You? What Do You Do? What are you going to talk about? Where are you presenting from? (Moz Space, your house, space) Will you be sharing your screen? (yes/no, 4:3 or 16:9) Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen Link to where audience can find out more information

Welcome!

Let’s say hello to some new Mozillians! If you are not able to join the meeting live, you can add a link to a short video introducing yourself.

Introducing New Volunteers

New Volunteer Introduced by Speaker location New Volunteer location Will be working on
Who is the new volunteer? Who will be introducing that person? Where is the introducer? Where will the new person be contributing from? What will the new person be working on?

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Notes and non-voice status updates that aren’t part of the live meeting go here.

Status Updates By Team (*non-voice* updates)

Developer Relations

Notices:

Planning: Processing of devadvocacy bugs, Servo, Raspberry Pi 2, Telemetry, MozFest

Events / Talks / Meetups / Trainings

  • Jason is heading to Edge
  • Jen is heading to An Event Apart Seattle and to Respond Sydney & Melbourne
  • Dietrich and Rabimba are heading to OpenIoT Summit

Bugs

Hacks Posts

Code / Demos

Calendars

Follow

Cloud Services

  • DXR now has indexes for Aurora, Beta, Release, and ESR45. Thanks, klibby!

IT

No foolin’!

There will be a maintenance window for IRC updates on Fri Apr 1st between 1900 – 2100 PDT. IRCCloud will be shutdown during the window.

Other connected clients can expect frequent disconnects and intermittent connectivity during the maintenance. For any questions, please contact #moc, or ircadmins@mozilla.org in case you have trouble connecting to IRC after the maintenance.

Engagement

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