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17-November-2010

Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-16

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Platform/2010-11-16

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 4.0

Firefox 3.6.13 and 3.5.16

  • Code freeze is this Thursday (2010-11-18) @ 11:59 pm PST

Blocker Report 

Blocker report for Firefox 4.0.beta8 (as of 2010-11-16 10:34:59.789849-08:00)

Overview
----------------------------------------------

4.0.beta8
      blocking: 161
         fixed: 113
          open:  48


Open Blocker Assignees
----------------------------------------------

                        Andreas Gal :gal:   5 +++++
                             Makoto Kato:   5 +++++
    Nobody; OK to take it and work on it:   4 ++++
               David Anderson [:dvander]:   3 +++
                  Chris Leary [:cdleary]:   2 ++
                  Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap):   2 ++
                Jonas Sicking (:sicking):   2 ++
         Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg]:   2 ++
                      Kyle Huey [:khuey]:   1 +
                        Jim Blandy :jimb:   1 +
           Ted Mielczarek [:ted, :luser]:   1 +
                     Boris Zbarsky (:bz):   1 +
                        Myk Melez [:myk]:   1 +
      Jeff Walden (remove +bmo to email):   1 +
                   Jason Duell (:jduell):   1 +
                  Ehsan Akhgari [:ehsan]:   1 +
                             Mike Connor:   1 +
                             Raymond Lee:   1 +
                           Markus Stange:   1 +
                         Jason Orendorff:   1 +
                     Luke Wagner [:luke]:   1 +
                           Gregor Wagner:   1 +
                 Wesley Johnston (:wesj):   1 +
                      ben turner [:bent]:   1 +
                          Bill McCloskey:   1 +
   Philipp von Weitershausen [:philikon]:   1 +
                          David Mandelin:   1 +
                    Marco Bonardo [:mak]:   1 +
               Mounir Lamouri (:volkmar):   1 +
                                    None:   1 +
                            Igor Bukanov:   1 +


Bug Activity
----------------------------------------------

    Bug 605271: Last modified 17 days ago (assigned to Kyle Huey [:khuey])
    Bug 608800: Last modified 14 days ago (assigned to Andreas Gal :gal)
    Bug 597811: Last modified 14 days ago (assigned to Chris Leary [:cdleary])
    Bug 591126: Last modified 13 days ago (assigned to Mike Connor)
    Bug 606138: Last modified 13 days ago (assigned to Luke Wagner [:luke])
    Bug 598650: Last modified 10 days ago (assigned to Gregor Wagner)
    Bug 608669: Last modified  8 days ago (assigned to Jonas Sicking (:sicking))
    Bug 608156: Last modified  8 days ago (assigned to Philipp von Weitershausen [:philikon])
    Bug 606141: Last modified  8 days ago (assigned to Boris Zbarsky (:bz))
    Bug 609970: Last modified  7 days ago (assigned to David Anderson [:dvander])
    Bug 604641: Last modified  7 days ago (assigned to Myk Melez [:myk])
    Bug 609030: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Jonas Sicking (:sicking))
    Bug 599610: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Igor Bukanov)
    Bug 553778: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Jim Blandy :jimb)
    Bug 606709: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Andreas Gal :gal)
    Bug 606268: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Nobody; OK to take it and work on it)
    Bug 607799: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Andreas Gal :gal)
    Bug 608171: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Jason Orendorff)
    Bug 610498: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to David Anderson [:dvander])
    Bug 607271: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to Nobody; OK to take it and work on it)
    Bug 595530: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to Marco Bonardo [:mak])
    Bug 584603: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to David Mandelin)
    Bug 607539: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to Bill McCloskey)
    Bug 580096: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to ben turner [:bent])
    Bug 599475: Last modified  3 days ago (assigned to Ted Mielczarek [:ted, :luser])
    Bug 608872: Last modified  3 days ago (assigned to Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap))
    Bug 606489: Last modified  3 days ago (assigned to Nobody; OK to take it and work on it)
    Bug 611982: Last modified  2 days ago (assigned to Andreas Gal :gal)
    Bug 600261: Last modified  2 days ago (assigned to Nobody; OK to take it and work on it)
    Bug 600622: Last modified  1 days ago (assigned to None)
    Bug 608651: Last modified  1 days ago (assigned to Mounir Lamouri (:volkmar))

Blocker report for Firefox 3.5.16 and 3.6.13 (as of 2010-11-16 10:47:21.682113-08:00)

Overview
----------------------------------------------

3.5.16
      blocking:  32
         fixed:   8
          open:  24
3.6.13
      blocking:  37
         fixed:  10
          open:  27


Open Blocker Assignees
----------------------------------------------

                   Mats Palmgren [:mats]:   7 +++++++
                          Steven Michaud:   4 ++++
                  Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap):   3 +++
                            Robert Sayre:   3 +++
                            Igor Bukanov:   3 +++
          Josh Aas (Mozilla Corporation):   2 ++
 Johnny Stenback (:jst, jst@mozilla.com):   1 +
                                  Ms2ger:   1 +
         Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg]:   1 +
                         Jason Orendorff:   1 +
              Nicholas Nethercote [:njn]:   1 +
                           Jonathan Watt:   1 +


Bug Activity
----------------------------------------------

    Bug 541255: Last modified 47 days ago (assigned to Jason Orendorff)
    Bug 554449: Last modified 47 days ago (assigned to Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap))
    Bug 572130: Last modified 47 days ago (assigned to Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap))
    Bug 569306: Last modified 47 days ago (assigned to Robert Sayre)
    Bug 600362: Last modified 45 days ago (assigned to Josh Aas (Mozilla Corporation))
    Bug 569162: Last modified 41 days ago (assigned to Igor Bukanov)
    Bug 590553: Last modified 36 days ago (assigned to Robert Sayre)
    Bug 597654: Last modified 32 days ago (assigned to Igor Bukanov)
    Bug 546573: Last modified 29 days ago (assigned to Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap))
    Bug 411835: Last modified 29 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])
    Bug 449129: Last modified 29 days ago (assigned to Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg])
    Bug 600098: Last modified 27 days ago (assigned to Josh Aas (Mozilla Corporation))
    Bug 468563: Last modified  8 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])
    Bug 604807: Last modified  7 days ago (assigned to Ms2ger)
    Bug 601699: Last modified  7 days ago (assigned to Jonathan Watt)
    Bug 599468: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Nicholas Nethercote [:njn])
    Bug 599610: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Igor Bukanov)
    Bug 599166: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Robert Sayre)
    Bug 605340: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])
    Bug 604843: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])
    Bug 603510: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])
    Bug 603490: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])
    Bug 571995: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])
    Bug 606737: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Steven Michaud)
    Bug 594547: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to Johnny Stenback (:jst, jst@mozilla.com))

Firefox Development

(from our goals):

Firefox

  • [CARRY OVER] API-Complete Jetpack
    • Joint with Jetpack team
  • [NEW] Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis
    • Joint with Platform
    • UI may not be functional, should launch and open a web page.

Developer Tools

  • [NEW] Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug
  • [NEW] Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging
  • [NEW] Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance/support

Platform

  • Goals: Real list found here. Quick overview:
    • [ON TRACK] Finish Firefox 4 blockers.
    • [ON TRACK] Support Firefox Team to stand up a browser on Electrolysis.

GFX

  • Post-beta 7 builds are *very* crashy.
    • A lot of this is probably due to bug 611389 and bug 611595, the latter of which does not yet have a patch.
    • These are coming to the forefront most likely due to the asynchronous layer-based plugin drawing changes that Benjamin Smedberg landed post-b7.

Layout

  • 1 beta8 blocker (editor, new regression)
  • Breakdown of all blockers:
    • 5 Video/Audio
    • 18 Widget
    • 10 SVG
    • 4 Editor
    • 82 other
  • Touchpad/trackpoint driver issues:

JS

  • a few small ES5 bugs fixed, many more remain, strict mode eval is still the last big-ticket item
  • various tracing/methodjit profiling improvements to ensure we use the tracer when it’s a speedup, still more work to do
  • starting to focus on blocker count now, overall numbers dropping

Tree Management

  • Any objections to 3h releng downtime Wednesday morning from 6am-9am PST?

Roundtable

Crash Summary

  • Beta7
    • Yesterday over 600K users with a crash ratio of 3.25%
    • Flash crash at #3 and several hangs in the top 10. Similar number of instances of hangs and plugin related crashes to beta6.
    • Many reports of crashes on twitter, particularly around the inability to submit oop crashes.
    • We reviewed the top 20 crashes, some new nominations for 2.0.
  • Trunk
    • Explosive crash situation with drivers which started on the 11th. All problems are logged but no luck reproducing internally.
    • Jumped from 2700 crashes/day to over 9300 with the same number of users.
    • Issues in progress – some patches checked in already.
    • Need to get the crash numbers down for beta8.
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16-November-2010

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-15

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WeeklyUpdates/2010-11-15

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Friends of the Tree

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 15 November

Tuesday, 16 November

Wednesday, 17 November

Thursday, 18 November

Friday, 19 November

Saturday, 20 November

Next Week

Product Status Updates

Firefox 4

We Shipped Beta 7

  • … and it’s awesome!
  • Next up: Beta 8!
    • Schedule will be quicker for these ones, they aren’t landmark releases the way beta 7 was, they are incremental progressions as we clamp down blockers
      • If you can’t come up with a good reason why a bug should go into beta 8 instead of beta 9 → not a beta 8 blocker
    • Beta 8 schedule will be discussed in tomorrow’s development call and wednesday’s product call, each at 11am PST.

A quick list of Firefox 4 triage queries is available:

Firefox 3.6 & 3.5

  • Code freeze for 3.6.13 and 3.5.16 is this Thursday, 2010-11-18 @ 11:59 PST
  • Nag emails and blocker reports will be sent out today
  • Plan to final ship on Thursday, December 9th

Mobile Firefox

  • Beta 3 code freeze is still next Tuesday, November 23
  • Firefox Home 1.0.4 is now in the app store

Thunderbird

  • Mac 32 & 64 bit builds expected today and tomorrow
  • We are preparing a 3.3a1 release and are looking for some help on the testing side
    • Alpha builds start this week

Drumbeat

  • Universal Subtitles: 2,856 videos subtitled. Need help to reach their 10,000 videos by Jan 1 target.
  • Drumbeat Festival follow-up: early work started on 4 new Festival projects.
  • Lightning talk on Festival coming next week.

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

Title

 Presenter

 Topic

 Media

 More Details
Your Title Here

 Your Name Here

 What are you going to talk about?

 Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen

 Link to where audience can find out more information
Tracking Polish Bugs in Firefox 4

 Alex Faaborg

 Now that all of the major features have landed for Firefox 4, we are shifting our focus towards small polish bugs. We want Firefox 4 to looks and feel like a finely crafted product.

 Main Window

Menus

Learn more about Atul’s buzilla.js which was used to provide the live data in these mockups. Also thanks go to Gerv for building the API we’re accessing!

Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

  • Launched F1, an experimental service & Firefox add-on designed to help users easily share links while avoiding the “NASCAR problem.”

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

Automation & Tools

Security

Engagement

PR

Events

Creative Team

Community Marketing

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Introducing New Hires

  • William Reynolds – User Engagement
  • Cameron McCormack – Web standards, platform work of some variety
  • Kevin Fox – Principal UX Designer, Labs
  • Ian Bicking (not really a new hire!) – moves from WebDev to Labs
  • Thomas Arend – Mobile PM

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

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11-November-2010

Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-10

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Mobile/Notes/10-Nov-2010

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Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel

Schedule

  • Beta 3
    • String freeze: Nov 12
    • Code freeze: Nov 23

Major Topics for This Week

Front-end

  • Working on b3 blockers and final blockers
  • Projects we are working on for 4.0:
    • Scroll indicators
    • Sync UI change
  • Projects that won’t make 4.0:
    • WebApp support
    • RSS UI
  • Ts / Tshutdown / Txul were all negatively affected by chrome methodjit
    • Added profiles to bug 608956
    • Backed out for now
  • Android-style menus landed (bug 606565).
    • Icons are placeholders; filed bug 610781 for proper icons.
    • Reduced scope, filed followups for features cut from this release: bug 610783, bug 610784

UX design

  • reviewing n900 theme work for some polish

Maemo

Qt

Android

  • DougT working on remoting audio
  • “android style” zoom add-on is available for testing

Electrolysis

  • DougT working on remoting Audio. Mostly works on desktop, however seeing video sync problems. Will investigate today.

General Platform

Video

Camera

Plugins

Performance

  • nice child process test impact

Networking

Graphics

Startup

Layout

Content

Release Engineering

  • tegras
    • still debugging issues in staging — perma orange
      • not sure if this is due to us or due to bug 610573
    • tegra imaging netbook — successfully imaged, but not successfully running yet
    • first part of the order arriving friday
  • n900s
    • n900s on try
    • txul regression due to nicing the child process
    • turning off n810s
  • buildsymbols upload logic fixed
  • objdir/dist/bin now clobbered in maemo depend builds

QA

Manual

  • New Bugs over the week: filed
  • blocking nominations over the past 2 weeks need some triage
  • Finished Release testing Beta 2 last week
  • Ported Nightly Tester Tools over to Mobile
  • Going through feedback received
    • Top issues: poor text rendering, high memory usage, copy&paste, no flash
    • Can’t determine feedback per device, so it’s a bit harder to triage right now
  • Going to work with Waverley on performance testing across browsers and top site testing across locales
  • Results from nightly Smoketest runs

Automation 

* blocked on bug 610573 for talos tpan, twinopen, jsreftest/crashtest/reftest.
* bug 611009 - patch for remote talos twinopen
* still have browser-chrome failures on n900

Other

  • Desktop notifications are going to be disabled on desktop (the feature will not be exposed to web content)
    • Do we want to wait to enable this feature?
  • WebSocket work may not be completed in 4.0 timeframe
    • Should we remove it from content?
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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-10

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Firefox/Planning/2010-11-10

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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
REMEMBER

These notes are read by people who weren’t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.

Agenda

  • actions from last week:
  • schedule and progress on upcoming releases
  • review highlights and notices
  • respond to questions and concerns

Action Items

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox 4

Firefox 3.6 & 3.5

  • Reminder that the 3.6.12 / 3.5.15 chemspill post-mortem is this Thursday. The wiki page will be updated with details today.
  • Schedule posted for 3.6.13 and 3.5.16
    • Plan to ship 3.6.13 and 3.5.16 on December 9th

Add-on Builder 1.0a6

  • The release remains on track for a Nov. 15th code freeze
  • The 1.0a7 development plan is wikified and up for discussion!

Jetpack SDK 0.10

  • freezes today, Wednesday, November 10
  • much work done, some at risk, some missed
  • proposal to hold release for beta blockers so we can ship it as first beta

Input 2.0

  • Code freeze tomorrow, go to live will be 11/10
  • New Features: Text counters on submission forms, Graphs, no limits on max search results, “Tweet This” per comment and Sites data over previous beta versions

Highlights / Notices

  • Gmail notifier stopped working. Contacting the Gmail team today. Read the support report! 🙂
  • User feedback summary: Same list from two weeks ago–we should have new information next week 😉
Issue

 SUMO

 Input

 Buglink
Youtube & Video rendering

 ~4 users

 144

 bug 579597 and related.
Font rendering

 ~5

 226

 bug 588880
Middle button click-to-scroll rendering glitch

 0

 31

 bug 588403
Zynga Toolbar not compatible

 4

 89

 Not a bug.
Error at Start-Up (could be AVG? or just extensions)

 ~12 Hard to know–affects more than just beta users

 85

 [1]
  • Plugins are now painted asynchronously on Windows. This could make performance and responsiveness on slow computers a lot better. bsmedberg wants testing from nightly-users. (bug 596451).
  • In Firefox 4 beta 7 users on MacOS 10.5 (Leopard) cannot submit crash reports, and all crashes appear to be hangs/unresponsive Firefox.

Questions and Concerns

  • SUMO – any word on when the Firefox menu will be finalized on all platforms? Basically I’m trying to figure out when we can confidently update support articles. Will this be possible before RC?

Press & Public Reactions

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10-November-2010

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-09

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-11-09

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Current Release Schedules
Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 1

Thunderbird 3.1.7 & 3.0.11
To Be Announced
  • Code freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59
  • L10n freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59
  • Builds start: 24th Nov
  • QA with builds start: 29th Nov
  • Beta period starts: 30th Nov
  • Final release: 9th Dec

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> roland
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozillamessaging.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project)

  • Funnelcake 3 released this morning. Should have some prelim numbers by tomorrow.
  • ISPDB: 35% conversion rate; top 10 domain misses: ocn.ad.jp, netease.com, interia.pl, psmtp.com, aon.at, telenet-ops.be, 163.com, one.com, cox.net, netsolmail.net

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Account Provisioner:

  • We’re still waiting on legal stuff, and are using the time to polish.

Pluggable Mail Stores:

Experiments

  • Up next: Thunderbird Conversations (formerly Gmail Conversation View). Currently ironing things out with clarkbw and andychung before cutting a 2.0 release. [protz]
  • Updates for Mailing List Manager, Contacts on deck.
  • Sync Add-on further out.
  • On schedule to release an add-on a week for the next month or so

3.2

  • Decision on if/when we’ll do 3.2 on hold until we progress account provisioning further.

Trunk Development

  • Starting 3.3 alpha cycle to get wider testing on trunk builds and major feature work.
Alpha 1
  • Basically release what we have on trunk
    • Backend improvements
    • Add-on Manager and extension changes
    • Linux 64 bit and Mac 32/64 bit builds.
  • Current blockers i.e.
    • Mac 64 bit builds
    • Buildbot configuration for trunk alphas
Post Alpha 1
  • Aiming for frequent alphas, specifically to pick up fixes / features.
  • Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see this list of higher priority bugs.

Thunderbird Stability & Security Releases

  • Draft Schedule published, see above.
  • Starting flagging bugs to be included in the next release, please see the bug lists.
  • Bug Lists: 3.1, 3.0
Major updates to 3.1

QA Updates

  • usual stuff
  • slowly preparing testing round for Alpha1

Marketing Updates

  • PR Update: Nice article on Calendar in Thunderbird, Rockmelt roundup, a few straggler stories on the security update
  • ADUs: 6.5MM total ADUs current high; 2.x is 18% of total ADUs now, downloads steady at above 80k a day average
  • Exploring a couple marketing initiatives centered around games and video. Please participate in IRC on #marketing.

Infrastructure Update

  • Massive storage downtime Thursday -> Friday
  • CouchDB as a build service, gozer to email tb-planning mailing list so folks are aware of this and can use it specifically asuth et al

Build / Release Update

  • enabled concurrent release builds on our production buildbot
  • adding release builders for trunk this week
  • gozer and jhopkins are now doing weekly bug sprint to catch up on bug backlog in buildrel

Web Update

  • Broker (less verbose name for Account Provisioning Middleware, added some tests, logging, figuring out Yahoo API details and starting implementation)
    • updated text on website for free email providers

Documentation

Sumomo clean-up: complete and make draft articles live; new articles; combine duplicates; updates

This week:

  • looking at contribution sources / metrics, MDC and Sumomo
  • Kitsune QA (the new support / KB platform)

Support

  1. 567 new support topics down 13% (652 last week; this week is a bit down from normal)
  2. Again, tb-support-crew mailing list for support contributors has been launched! If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe and briefly introduce yourself to the list
  3. sid0 is rapidly iterating (thanks sid!) the about:support extension so if you are a support contributor on Get Satisfaction, MozillaZine, etc please give latest builds (github, mercurial) a try and give us feedback
  4. 3.1 Support Issues
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

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Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-09

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Platform/2010-11-09

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 4.0

  • FF4.0b7 will be released tomorrow (!!!)
    • Please add the relnote keyword for any issues that you think should be in the relnotes
  • FF4.0b8 will be fairly quickly after (~3 weeks? depends on blockers)
    • Need drivers to triage / make sure b8 blockers are true blockers
    • Have 87 blockers, that number needs to start coming down

Branch releases

  • Firefox 3.6.13 and 3.5.16 have a schedule posted
    • Code freeze is Thursday, November 18th
    • Final release is Thursday, December 9th

Blocker Report

  • Firefox 4.0
    • beta 8: 87
  • Firefox Branches
    • 3.6.13: 21
    • 3.5.16: 18

Firefox Development

(from our goals):

Firefox

  • [CARRY OVER] API-Complete Jetpack
    • Joint with Jetpack team
  • [NEW] Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis
    • Joint with Platform
    • UI may not be functional, should launch and open a web page.

Developer Tools

  • [NEW] Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug
  • [NEW] Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging
  • [NEW] Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance/support

Platform

  • Goals: Real list found here. Quick overview:
    • [ON TRACK] Finish Firefox 4 blockers.
    • [ON TRACK] Support Firefox Team to stand up a browser on Electrolysis.

GFX

  • 4 beta 8 blockers, which we continue to work on, in addition to other blockers.
  • Cairo update is getting close.

Layout

  • 1 beta8 blocker, has reviewed patch.
  • Blocker counts are rising while the tree has been closed for beta7 work.

JS

Working on getting our b8 total down. May cut compartments work if possible.

  • ES5 work
    • wrapping up bug 577325, making our processing of function definitions conform to ES5+errata
    • also still going on bug 514568 to give strict mode eval its own scope (such evals can’t mess with the binding set of the calling code)

Tree Management

  • A few minor announcements about mobile infrastructure:
    • 11 tegras arrived, imaged, powered, racked; debugging issues in staging.
    • 54 n900s imaged. Enabled in try, email for failures coming shortly
  • bug 559964: Schedule gcc 4.5 switchover
  • Rest of backordered shelves have arrived at our Santa Clara data center. IT will be moving the rest of the test minis from Castro to Santa Clara this week (either piecemeal, or all at once during a downtime, TBD)

Roundtable

  • Crashes
  • HTML5 test suite (dbaron)
    • W3C is developing an HTML5 test suite
    • If you’re working on features that are in W3C HTML5, you should aim to write tests that can be contributed to the test suite
    • more details later, hopefully
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9-November-2010

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-08

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WeeklyUpdates/2010-11-08

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Video for today’s meeting

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Friends of the Tree

  • Wanted to thank the following people for all their hard work during the Fx 4 Demos Work Week: Paul Rouget, Corban Riley, Al MacDonald, Charles Cliffe, Cedric Pinson, Geoffrey Dorne, Simon Luthi, Ilmari Heikkenen, Guillaume Lecollinet, Franck Lecollinet, Omar Noory, Chris Howse, Jason Grlicky, Austin King and Max Lanaman.

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 08 November

Tuesday, 09 November

Wednesday, 10 November

Thursday, 11 November

Friday, 12 November

Next Week

Product Status Updates

Firefox 4

  • Branched and built for FF4b7 last Thursday (2010-11-04)
  • The tree is open again!
  • QA is testing the builds for FF4b7. Please test it yourself by downloading it here
  • Plan to ship to users this week (Wednesday) if no major issues are found
  • We’re investigating some possible issues that may cause a rebuild, though we do not have enough information to make a decision
  • Beta 8 has 87 blockers

Firefox 3.6 & 3.5

  • The schedules for 3.6.13 and 3.5.16 are now posted to the wiki
    • Code freeze is scheduled for Thursday, November 18th @ 11:59 pm PST
    • Final release is scheduled for Thursday, December 9th

Mobile Firefox

  • Firefox 4 Beta 2 released.
  • Firefox Home 1.0.4 going to app store shortly
  • Beta 3 code freeze is November 23

Thunderbird

  • Ramping up for 3.3alpha1 builds from the trunk in the next few weeks
    • Note that we’re not yet decided whether Tb.next will ship off of 1.9.2 or 2.0
  • Account provisioning add-on should be ready for testing & feedback soon
  • Shipping 3rd funnelcake build based on 3.1.6

Drumbeat

  • Drumbeat festival was a big success! A more detailed report will be a lightning talk in next week’s meeting. Have a look at the festival blog in the meantime to get a flavour of how the festival went: http://www.drumbeat.org/drumbeat_festival_2010

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

Title

 Presenter

 Topic

 Media

 More Details
Trip Summary: Mid-East, Moscow, Drumbeat

 Mitchell Baker

 Lightning Talk version of recent travels

 photos from Amman: http://picasaweb.google.com/ArabicMozilla/OpenWebGetInvolved#5532462205190656514

Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

  • QA Test Automation
    • Henrik spoke about Mozmill Crowd at the [Selenium meetup] in London
      • This meetup included talks from David Burns on client performance testing and an overview of WebQA automation infrastructure by Stephen Donner
    • This week we have the Test Automation work week happening in the headquarters. Stop by in Zombocom if you are interested.
  • Desktop Firefox QA
    • Currently testing Beta7 builds, looking for ship this week.

Automation & Tools

    • Mozmill is going live in buildbot this week! Thanks to all the folks who have made this long standing goal a reality: jhammel, jhford, harth, whimboo, and joduinn.
    • Orange Factor has moved to a more permanent home, and changed to a day by day calculation over time rather than a cumulative graph over time.
      • Still experimenting with statistics, getting data uploaded into hBase for final database.
    • Nightly Tester Tools 2.5 released.
    • Bugzilla Team Dashboards version 1 are live.
    • The A-Team will be in MV next week, hanging out in GIGO or BRB if you want to come say hi.
    • More news…

Security

Engagement

PR

Events

Creative Team

Community Marketing

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Introducing New Hires

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

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4-November-2010

Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-03

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Mobile/Notes/03-Nov-2010

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Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel

Schedule

  • Beta 3
    • String freeze: Nov 12
    • Code freeze: Nov 23

Major Topics for This Week

  • Beta 2 status

Front-end

  • Watching for any potential b2 blockers to pop up
  • Working on b3 blockers
  • Bigger projects that could land soon:
    • WebApp support
    • Scroll indicators
    • Sync UI change
    • RSS UI
  • Beta 3 is the last period for getting this kind of work landed
  • Ts / Tshutdown / Txul were all negatively affected by chrome methodjit
    • Trying to profile
    • Do we see a benefit?

UX design

Maemo

Qt

Android

  • Full screen ready to land after tree opens for b3

Electrolysis

General Platform

Video

Camera

Plugins

Performance

Networking

Graphics

Startup

Layout

Content

Release Engineering

  • https://intranet.mozilla.org/Build:Mobile:Priorities updated
  • 3 new tegra tests: twinopen, tsspider, tpan
  • 4.0b2 respin for locales?
  • 80 tegras freed up to order, will bring us to 94. we need to figure out an imaging solution that doesn’t involve walking over to Bob Moss’ desk.
  • patch written to fix mobile buildsymbol upload; needs testing; will wait for 4.0b2 to ship to land

QA

Manual

Automation

Other

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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-03

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Firefox/Planning/2010-11-03

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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
REMEMBER

These notes are read by people who weren’t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.

Agenda

  • actions from last week:
  • schedule and progress on upcoming releases
  • review highlights and notices
  • respond to questions and concerns

Action Items

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox 4

Add-on Builder 1.0a6

  • Last week saw the completion of key elements of the 1.0a6 release
  • The release remains on track for a Nov. 15th code freeze
  • The 1.0a7 development plan will be wikified and ready for review by next Tuesday

Jetpack SDK 0.10

  • freeze scheduled for next Wednesday, November 10
  • much work on track, some work at risk
  • doesn’t block Firefox 4.0b7 release, but we think we can make it compatible anyway
  • aiming to make this release the first beta (1.0b1)
  • hold freeze for beta blockers?

Input 2.0

We’d love your feedback on any of these things via #input on irc.mozilla.org!

Highlights / Notices

Questions and Concerns

Press & Public Reactions

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3-November-2010

SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-02

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SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2010-11-02

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

CLOSED

K.I.V.

  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now. Didn’t hear anything about open Geolocation service yet. No easy solution in sight.

SeaMonkey 2.0.9

  • SeaMonkey 2.0.9 SHIPPED on October 20th.
  • Synchronized with Firefox 3.5.14.

SeaMonkey 2.0.10

open blockers (0)
blocker requests (0)
[1] (2)

  • SeaMonkey 2.0.10 is a chemspill release SHIPPED on October 28th to fix bug 607222.
  • Synchronized with Firefox 3.5.15.
  • 2.0.10 had a turnaround time of just about 24 hours from “let’s get going on building” until “it’s shipped and public” – even though we had some build automation system hiccups.
  • Thanks to Callek for help on the build pocess of both those release.

SeaMonkey 2.0.11

open blockers (0)
blocker requests (0)
fixed (8)

  • Based on Gecko 1.9.1.16, target date TBD, see Releases.
  • Release schedule will be synchronized with the next Firefox 3.5 release (3.5.16) in early December (tentative).

SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1

targeted (1)
fixed (97)

  • Has been SHIPPED on October 20th, ~3500 downloads so far, ~500 ADU [2].

SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 2

open blockers (1)
blocker requests (2)
targeted (2)
fixed (23)

(Further 2.1 scheduling:)

  • Please help updating the New 2.1 Features page as we go.
  • Plans for 2.1: 6-8 weeks per milestone, b2 (feature freeze) probably in early December; final to be decided later.
  • Unsure how this fits Firefox 4 plans as they are still trying to get to their feature freeze.
  • Firefox 4 now officially being in early 2011, which gives us a bit more time.
  • Beta 1 on PPC is broken.
    • We will probably seek to EOL it by getting i386/x86_64 universal builds up somehow.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 55 new, 22 fixed, 8 triaged.

  • Fix rate is good but needs to improve, triage continues to be weak. Should do more there.
  • Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!
  • How about a triage week to get help from the community?
    • It would be good to get some input and possibly help from Anthony Hughes (Mozilla QA).
    • tonymec or InvisibleSmiley would know about the process.
    • Aqualon will setup a wiki-page at Proposed SeaMonkey Triage Week to collect ideas and get a plan until the next meeting on 2010-11-16.

Major wanted/needed features:

2.1

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled
  • bug 460953 kill-rdf port.
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 2.0) Composer. [kaze]
    • kaze is currently job hunting so doesn’t have much time to spend on this.
    • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
    • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That’s something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (dmose).
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
    • The rest is unowned so far.
  • bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 – Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
  • bug 573538 No options for Safe-Mode.
  • bug 521159 [SeaMonkey 2.1] Port |bug 514327 Detect outdated plugins and offer upgrade path|
Active
  • bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak]
    • no movement.
  • bug 570004 Popup/”doorhanger” notifications [Neil]
    • Implementation moved to bug 595810.
    • Done: Drop local copy of toEM; Break out addonInstallBlocked into its own method; Add support for completed and failed addon installation notifications.
  • bug 566138 Better integration with Windows 7 taskbar
    • no progress at the moment.
  • bug 576970 Port Sync UI to SeaMonkey trunk [InvisibleSmiley]
    • Updated to include latest changes; waiting for reviews from IanN and Neil.

We also should take a look at the other items on 2.1-wanted
Also the nominations need triaging.

  • We will need to take a close look at Lightning, which is mainly targeting Thunderbird.
    • Lightning 1.0 beta 1 is for SM2.0 and TB3.0, 1.0 beta 2 is for TB3.1 (Gecko 1.9.2), 1.0 beta 2 will probably be Gecko 2.0-based.

SeaMonkey Developer Meeting

See wiki page: SeaMonkey Developer Meeting

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

asrail

Callek

Bugs fixed:

Waiting on reviews:

  • bug 607775 Finalize missed comm-central sync for client.mk.
  • bug 608048 xpcshell target does not pass-down $(EXTRA_TEST_ARGS).
  • bug 608478 Move PERL and MOZILLA_VERSION lines back to where they belong…
  • bug 608483 Port |bug 551438 Require system libpng to be at version 1.4.1 or later| to comm-central.
  • bug 608484 Port |bug 595805 Update required cairo version to 1.10 | to comm-central.
  • bug 608485 Port Mozilla Changes of |bug 583611 (SQLite3.7.1) Upgrade to SQLite 3.7.1| to comm-central.

Working on:

  • bug 560772 Make use of mozilla::services for comm-central [Needs new patch].

To Do:

  • bug 292569 Add support for #pragma once to headers.
  • bug 502562 Implement the info function for logging.
  • bug 568052 Adapt Modern theme for new Add-on Manager.
  • bug 571527 Add pref for auto vs. ask-me addon update.
  • bug 573896 [Tracker] Callek needs to get access to edit seamonkeyproject-org.
  • bug 589506 Scrub the codebase of MOZ_VIEW_SOURCE and MOZ_JSLOADER [waiting for branch before checkin].
  • bug 602188 Backout changeset fab718da09fd.
  • bug 607245 MoMe TBPL: SeaMonkey 2.0 ‘test mochitests’ not showing up.

ewong

  • Fixed:
    • bug 602748 Fix “a the” in comments (for Calendar code).
    • bug 602761 Fix “a the” in comments (in Firefox:General).
    • bug 602766 Fix “a the” in comments (in Core:DOM).
  • Requiring Check-in:
    • bug 576026 runtests.py.in is an interpolated file and shouldn’t be.
    • bug 423401 Please use a local variable and copy the string once.
  • Waiting for a2.0:
    • bug 602758 Fix “a the” in comments (in Toolkit).
  • Working on:
  • Investigating:

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Attended SeaMonkey Developer Meeting in Wien, Österreich.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 606366 Port to SM Remove .wrappedJSObject gets that don’t work with the new wrappers.
  • Working on:
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab

InvisibleSmiley

  • Working on:
    • bug 576970 Port Sync UI to SeaMonkey trunk
    • bug 579738 Make lightweight themes / personas work in mailnews windows
    • bug 579739 Make lightweight themes / personas work in composer windows
    • bug 608966 Make lightweight themes / personas work in the address book window
    • bug 509954 Make F5 reload on other platforms than Windows
    • bug 79397 Want F5 to view/reload (in MailNews) as per browser

KaiRo

  • Shipped SeaMonkey 2.0.9, 2.1 Beta 1, and then 2.0.10 as an oilspill.
  • Organized and took part in the SeaMonkey Developer Meeting.
  • Worked on my backlogs from the vacation and stay in the US
  • As usual, my blog has more detailed status about my work, and Mozilla Status Board Posts also tell about my next planned steps.

mcsmurf

Working on bug 600179 LDAP DLLs reference compiler debug DLLs when building a non-debug build.

Misak

Fixed:

  • bug 593681 Small fixes to keep sessionstore in sync with FF.

To Do:

  • bug 481862 The Main MailNews window needs suitable button icons for small button mode.

Mnyromyr

MReimer

Working on:

  • bug 399310 Add Firefox Sidebar API to SeaMonkey Sidebar.
  • bug 606998 “Helper Applications” panel in preferences window unusable on a “non Gnome” system.

Neil

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 604493 Composition Window broken on trunk builds due to tracemonkey landing (merge of compartments) (cannot compose, write, reply to messages).

Working on:

  • bug 573388 ASSERTION: aWebProgress and channel callbacks do not point to the same docshell.
  • bug 581309 Remove unused properties from XPCOMUtils.
  • bug 595810 Centralise notifications for ease of conversion to doorhangers.
  • bug 598942 Yellow triangle appearing in the Windows tray instead of new mail icon.

Ratty

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 586947 Places File Bookmark (Ctrl+D) needs improvement badly
  • bug 599833 Add “Paste and Go” to the context menu of the URLbar.

Working on:

  • bug 484968 Make SeaMonkey tab bar scrollable to cope with tab overflow.

Other:

  • Wrote up a Con Report on my trip to the SeaMonkey developer meeting in Wien [3].
  • Bug triage, feedback, reviews, and Bug discussions.
  • AgitProp and PR in http://forums.mozillazine.org/.

Ricardo

Fixed:

  • bug 227152 Documentation for MailNews Default Account is incomplete/wrong/not indexed.
  • bug 246405 mail_help.xhtml should be split to several files.

sgautherie

  • Attended SeaMonkey/Developer Meeting:2010 in Vienna.
  • Fixed SeaMonkey (related) bugs:
    • bug 605503 Port |Bug 570387 – PlacesDBUtils should register itself in the idle-daily category| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 605657 Port |Bug 431558 – implement preventive maintenance for places.sqlite| to SeaMonkey 2.0
    • bug 607560 Port |Bug 597374 – Downloading of a file from a password protected directory fails| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 608516 mochitest-browser-chrome: “TEST-UNEXPECTED-PASS | …/browser_pluginnotification.js | Should have displayed the plugins pane – Got addons://list/plugin, expected addons://list/plugin”
  • Fixed (or in-progress) MailNews Core bugs:
    • bug 487605 nsStopwatch.cpp: Fix GetProcessTimes() usage
    • bug 604849 Port |Bug 480735 – Startup timeline| to comm-central
    • bug 605376 Port |Bug 559263 – make jemalloc work with android| to comm-central
    • bug 228448 Remove ‘==’/’!=’ ‘PR_FALSE’/’PR_TRUE’
  • Fixed (or in-progress) Core bugs:
    • bug 595756 “DOMSVGLength.cpp(58) : error C2248: ‘mozilla::DOMSVGLengthList::mItems’ : cannot access private member declared in class ‘mozilla::DOMSVGLengthList'”

stefanh

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 602568 [Mac default] MailNews (tab)scrollbox arrows/buttons needs love.
  • bug 605586 [Mac default] Style the Findbar.
  • bug 605622 Make findbar appear above content and style it properly.

Working on:

To Do:

Any other business?

  •  ?
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