Meeting Notes Meetings notes from the Mozilla community

16-March-2016

SeaMonkey: 2016-03-15

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • Ewong for getting 2.40 out despite all odds and a broken hand.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • IanN to review members mailing-list and council appointments (IanN to talk to mcsmurf about members list)

OPEN

CLOSED

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Discussion:
    • Ewong has managed to get uploads to the S3 servers working – mostly.
    • Discussions have started with ewong, Callek, KaiRo, and others) about the route forward for both releases and infrastructure as well as growing the RelEng team and funding.
    • But the build team needs to be grown as ewong is not a superhero.
    • Council will have to decide if Adrian Kalla can be part of our RelEng team.
    • FRG: All trees are building locally just fine with client.py fixes for chatzilla and dom-inspector. Running 2.43 now.
  • Notes:
    • Callek: Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I’m hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I’m realistic expecting it won’t be until January at earliest.
    • Ewong will set up a cron job to do semi regular builds on the loaner machine.
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Even en-US builds have stopped again. The latest trunk nightlies were 2.43a1 dated 9-Jan-2016 for L32 & L64, 6-Jan-2016 for Mac, and 2.42a1 dated 11-Nov-2015 for W32. No 2.44a1 yet, to parallel Firefox 47.0a1 which is being published every night (or every day depending on your timezone).
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [15th March 2016]
    • [comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta]
      • Busted due to a host of bugs. [:ewong : currently busy fixing the mess I made with the 2.40 updating to check.]
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • Looks like ewong has managed to push 2.40 to the release servers at least for 2.40.

Discussion:

  • KaiRo: We should get a 2.42 release done based on Gecko 45 ESR and then only concentrate on getting nightly to build and run well and ignore everything in between for the moment. We can then do as many 2.42.x security updates based on ESR as we want before we get something out of nightly that is in good shape again.
  • Everyone agreed to skip 2.41.
  • Frg: Chatzilla locale generation still broken. Frg and Adrian to deal with this.

Carried forward from discussion at last meeting:

  • IanN suggests we should follow the Thunderbird release model, doing releases off the ESR-* branch but also the occasional comm-beta “release”. L10N Translations might be problematic however rsx11m says using ESR would be “safer” with regard to more stability on releases and not having to cope immediately with bustages from mozilla side, but may require some “deal” to get l10n-relevant minor patches into the releases before the next ESR branch is coming. If you have a patch that applies cleanly from comm-beta to comm-esr45, translations should be done already (of course, that’s just simple patches such as label changes or adding a checkbox). rsx11m would go with {comm,mozilla}-esr45 and merge any “safe” patches from comm-beta but that may need some talking to l10n if string changes are involved.
  • Adriank thinks we need an *own* build infra separate from MoCo. What is needed is a buildbot (Adrian use Jenkins), a Windows, Linux, and OSX virtual machine.
  • SeaMonkey 2.39 was released November 8th, 2015.
  • SeaMonkey 2.40 final (tracking bug 1233615) was partially released March 14, 2016
    • Updating failed due to PEBKAC. Currently rectifying this issue.
  • Merges were performed as scheduled on March 7:
    • comm-release default is now on SM 2.42.
    • comm-release and mozilla-release are now on 45.0.
    • comm-esr45 and mozilla-esr45 are now current.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings (outdated), altertative list started (currently Rainer Bielefeld is the only active maintainer)
  • Lightning betas are up for 2.40, 2.41, and 2.42.
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
    • The AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, seems mature. (It had 9 successive revisions between 27 September and 3 October, and no change since then.) It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a “built-in extension” besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane; the extension actually does much more than the bug’s Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid “You need Firefox 10 or later” popups.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Ratty has the Firefox Devtools up and running. We can now use the Firefox Devtools debugger in both remote and local mode.
    • Venkman is now totally retired R.I.P..

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.40

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (6)
targeted (0)
fixed (15)

2.Next

  • We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 1254987 (Fix comm-central fallout from |bug 1254410 - Include app-specific configure files according to --enable-application/--enable-project|). All comm-central applications are not building due to bug 1254410 jcranmer, glandium, et all are looking into this.
    • bug 1209875 did break any builds of 2.41+ containing a localized ChatZilla – bug 1213641 filled
    • No en-US trunk builds later than 30 November yet (or even 11 November on win32). Aurora is currently building on Linux (L32 / L64) only.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Changes to Safe Browsing.
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, Will be fixed in SeaMonkey bug 1222816.
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743.
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
      • mozilla-central bug 1189918 and bug 1190465 allow to fork Toolkit style pages for the classic/default/modern theme without harming theme developers. SeaMonkey bug 1022354 will move theme overrides to the theme manifests.
        • affected pages that should be reverted are about:config [bug 1222816], about:addons [bug 1222817], about:support [bug 1222818] (look ok in Modern but hurt in the Default theme).
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.
  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
    • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there’s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.
    • About specific aspects of this problem, see: bug 1230796, bug 1230804, bug 1230806 and maybe more.
    • [Ratty] The url for the discovery pane is set in a pref. Instantbird points the URL to a chrome XUL document. If we do this we don’t have to worry about the python stuff.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 10 new, 9 fixed, 13 triaged.

  • low-medium triaging effort, low number of new bugs filed.
  • Ratty has a SeaMonkey build with a working Firefox Devtools!!!! For relevant patches see previous meeting notes.
    • Unfortunately changes in DevTools keep bit-rotting my patch and it’s a P.I.T.A. to keep up.
  • Mozilla wants to separate Firefox and Thunderbird, in infrastructure and organizationally, which will likely affect SeaMonkey as well
  • Fundamental core features Firefox/Mozilla plans to remove:
    • bug 1222546 Product plan: remove support for heavyweight themes
      • if effective for all Toolkit applications, would render most 3rd-party themes disfunct
      • no sufficiently plausible specifics provided ‘why’ full themes ‘must’ no longer be supported
      • may prohibit Modern theme being shipped with or installed in SeaMonkey
      • removal is “decided” without any clear alternative envisioned
    • The toolkit help viewer is going away. Neil is working on resuscitating the old XPFE help viewer which apparently has more features.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The HowTo page has been moved to SeaMonkey/QA/Triage HowTo. No one having objected (or even reacted), bug 1092632 is now RESOLVED FIXED. See its comment #18 for the announcement URLs.

Open reviews/flags:
68 review
5 super-review
3 ui-review
13 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • Encrypted Media Extensions / Digital Rights Management
      • bug 1127784 added a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • more work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox
  • What about declaring linux-x86_64 builds found at seamonkey-project.org and at ftp.m.o as “official” ?

On October 7 two people asked in #seamonkey at a few minutes’ interval when there would be “official” 64-bit SM builds for Linux. I pointed them to the x86_64 release at the bottom of the “Other languages” release page for 2.38 and to the x86_64 2.40a2 aurora & 2.41a1 trunk builds at the bottom of the ftp.m.o nightly/latest-comm-* pages but they said these were not “official”.

So — how are we going to get out of the following vicious circle? 64-bit builds are not “official” because too few users, and users don’t install them (some even prefer compiling their own) because they aren’t “official”.

Maybe change the online documentation? (perhaps as part of bug 1208822 “System Requirements page needs update”?)

Tonymec (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2015 (PDT)

  • [ewong:] what’s the prerequisites of making the Linux64 builds ‘official’ aside for the issue of getting the tests done for Linux64; but our testing infrastructure is busted. bug 1209378

— Discussion on locale translations for DOMi and Chatzilla —

  • [frg] Localized Chatzilla builds currently break suite compile starting with 2.41. See bug 1229810 Port bug 1228444 and bug 1228467 to Chatzilla.
  • [IanN] The tagging has fixed the issue for chatzilla before 2.41 but more is needed for 2.41 and above?
  • [frg] Yes. The optional language xpi will not compile in 2.41 and is broken in 2.42 and up. install.rdf missing. The main xpi is fine.
  • [IanN] Can you spin a bug off with the steps to generate the optional language xpi for 2.41 along with any errors, similarly another one for 2.42 and up. If it ends up being the same fix, not a problem, bugs are cheap. just cc me.
  • [IanN] Ratty: do we need to start looking at how to overlay Chatzilla and DOMi on top of the TB’s new merged (c-c + m-c) repository?
  • [Ratty] Not sure. I hope we can continue doing what we have been doing using nested repositories. However in the new merged repository. The comm-central client.py is replaced by the mozilla-central client.py so I don’t know how this will work.
  • [IanN] Merging DOMi into comm-central would make SeaMonkey releases easier. We just need to sort out locale building for DOMi.

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ewong

  • busy getting 2.40 to worry about other stuff.
    • with the busted updates… even more busy.

frg

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1055954 popup exceptions are not added. Please review and let me know if it’s ok. Contains string changes.
  • bug 1188348 data manager: domains invisible for Permissions, Preferences, Passwords. Contains string changes and hopefully will not miss the next cycle. I am done here and any changes will be need to put in new bugs.
  • bug 1251368 SeaMonkey cookie code needs to be updated to take into account mozilla-central bug 1245184. Might work whithout checking bug 1188348 in first but not tested. 2.44 and up affected.
  • bug 1250600 Update Safebrowsing in Seamonkey for recent changes in Firefox. Follow up bug of bug 920951 Update SeaMonkey Safebrowsing preferences to sync with Mozilla-Central. Old Seamonkey api key does no longer work but the lists are downloaded. Ratty found out that Google thottles in this case.

Working on:

  • bug 1238767 Localized Suite build fails in DebugQA: Stalled. I think the l10 build system might be responsible and tries to pick up files from the wrong location. Adrin Kalla thinks I need to do an l10 merge only. I disagree because the xpi only explicitly supports en-US builds.

Otherwise didn’t have much time in the last two weeks. Will see what I can do next.

Tidbits (didn’t see the mentiond bugs changed since the last time):

Chatzilla imho only needs one more patch and it should build l10n for 2.41 and up:

Would also need new tags for client.py as stated in:

  • bug 1167346 comm-aurora builds are not building due to DOMi and Chatzilla pulling from revisions earlier…

This might clear up:

  • bug 1244467 Localized Builds: Chatzilla language pack missing from Seamonkey installer package

Other things on my mind:

  • enable-optimize=-O2 should be used for Windows release builds. Linux gcc –enable-optimize optimizes for speed. With VS2013 it optimizes for size. Resulting O2 Windows build feels a lot snappier.
  • I absolutly hate the new Firefox build system. This seems to be based on cryptic on cryptic on cryptic scripts. Still prefer plain autoconf and configure.
  • Alternate distribution path for Seamonkey should be evaluated. It still builds and works fine but without builds in the hands of users doesn’t make much sense.
  • Seamonkey compiles fine under VS2015 Update 2 RC. x86 build still works fine under Windows XP SP 3 too. x64 build is stable for daily use (same with VS2013).
  • I think the council should replace it’s inactive members. Too much going on which needs attention.

IanN

  • Usual localising, testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
    • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1252308 Update en-GB for Gecko 45
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Ratty

Fixed:

Needs review:

  • bug 1235805 Rollup patch: Add preload content policy types for images (bug 1048048) Use the loading document’s principal to populate loadInfo for Favicons instead of using systemPrincipal (bug 1119386) nsITaskbarPreview::Invalidate no longer throws when not visible.
  • bug 1222816 Restore about:config UI (Config Editor) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit’s Project Chameleon styles.
  • bug 1223341 Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1255354 Create options to open the data manager and the addon manager in standalone windows instead of a browser tab.
  • bug 1255538 Fix trailing \whitespace and \tabs in tasksOverlay.js.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Landed on comm-aurora:

  • bug 1245110 Remove help about (now removed) “Ask for each cookie” option in preferences dialog.

Waiting for ui-review (necessary?):

  • bug 851898 Zoom will not go past 300%, used to be able to zoom to +/-800%.

Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 1251874 Allow modification of minimum/maximum zoom levels in Content preference pane.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

Any other business?

  • Daylight Saving Time in Northern America starts on March 13; then Summer Time on March 27; winter time on 3 April in NZ and some parts of Australia; no clock change in East and South Asia; etc.

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

15-March-2016

Mozilla Project: 2016-03-14

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am
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Gear Store

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Security

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Planning: CascadiaJS, YouGottaLoveFrontEnd, LetsEncrypt, MozLondon, TechSpeakers Phase 2, Code Schools, Trainspotting

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Bugs

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Code / Demos

11-March-2016

Channel: 2016-03-10

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am
Channel Meeting Details

Attendees

sylvestre, kairo, jlund, kim, florin, philipp, ritu, Bogdan, ada

Schedule Update

  • desktop delayed, probably today
    • build promotion
    • Probably ready today

Stability

Aurora

  • Overall rate: 1.7 – browser: 0.9, content: 0.8 – yellow
  • waiting on data

Beta

  • Overall rate: 1.2 – yellow
  • waiting on data
  • bug 1245743 (ObservedDocShell::PopMarkers) still a concern, will need uplift

Release

  • Overall rate: 1.1 – red
  • Trusteer Rapport: bug 1254527 going down yesterday, bug 1255026 continuing to rise on both 44 and 45.
    • They said that it is fixed and pushing the fix
      • bug 1254527 is still occurring atm for users contacting sumo & who are fully updated
  • plugin crash bug 1252152 is ongoing, we still need reproducible case

Mobile

  • bug 1254787 (SharedPreferencesImpl.getString) is spiking on 45

QE

Nightly

  • [Mihai]]Responsive Design Mode] – Just a quick update here. I spoke with Marco and the milestone moved to Fx52.

Aurora / Dev Edition

  • [Andrei] “Per monitor DPI settings” (http://bugzil.la/890156) pre-aurora feature sign off is in progress, should be finished early tomorrow. There were several new issues found affecting this feature and while they’re still pending assessment from the development team, we’re inclined to say it’s not ready for Aurora in its current state. (Are the new issues worse than shipping without the improvements we get?)
  • [Andrei] We’re currently working on signing off Developer Edition 47 as well — we’ll have a final test report by the end of tomorrow.

Beta

  • [Andrei] 46 Beta 1 (build 8) is green from QE’s perspective.
    • We have issues running the update tests, sounds like a mozmill problem
  • [Cornel] [WebVR] feature disabled in beta due to instability (crash #1239055)

Mobile

  • [Mihai] We’ve signed off Firefox 46 Beta 1
  • We’re currently testing Aurora 47, we will send the final sign off tomorrow afternoon EET

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10-March-2016

Mobile: 2016-03-09

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Schedule

Friends of the Mobile Team

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  • Andi-Bogdan Postelnicu fixed bug 1251213 – [Static Analysis][Resource leak] In DoCommand::UpdateCallBack
  • Andi-Bogdan Postelnicu fixed bug 1252082 – [Static Analysis][Dereference null return value] In function ReadingListHelper::fetchContent
  • Bob fixed bug 730192 – Headset playback controls (media keys) do not work while Firefox is open
  • Giovanny Gongora [:gioyik] fixed bug 1175375 – Replace about:feedback png images with svg
  • Robin Ricard [:rricard] fixed bug 1065969 – Make sending articles to Reading List easier from home panel add-ons
  • Tristan fixed bug 1244197 – Fix two small code optimizations
  • Vivek Balakrishnan[:vivek] fixed bug 1122710 – Advertise Firefox Accounts in empty state of “Reading List” panel
  • Vivek Balakrishnan[:vivek] fixed bug 946857 – Consolidate nsILoginManager implementation on the Android side
  • cijo fixed bug 1187382 – Revise AppConstants.Versions after release of Android M
  • malayaleecoder fixed bug 1219323 – Remove unnecessary table created check from BrowserDatabaseHelper
  • malayaleecoder fixed bug 1241941 – [Lint: ScrollViewSize] Fix ScrollView size validation error
  • malayaleecoder fixed bug 1245044 – Move Restrictions class to restrictions package

Team Updates

Android platform

snorp, jchen, rbarker, esawin, droeh

Android front-end

margaret, liuche, mcomella, sebastian, ahunt, grisha (nalexander/rnewman)

iOS

bkmunar, bnicholson, fluffyemily, jhugman, sleroux, st3fan

Builds & Releases

Development Updates / Work in Progress

  • Progress with automated screenshots for L10N – http://people.mozilla.org/~sarentz/fxios/screenshots/latest/
  • work continuing with Menu implementation
  • Lots of uplifts to 3.0.
  • Ad-hoc bookmark telemetry waiting for feedback.
  • Sync server improvements underway.
  • Sync on Exit
  • Today Widget
  • Build system improvements

UX

tecgirl, antlam, gemma

  • Android
    • UX proposal docs
      • Content update notifications, Linking to screenshots, First Run, and more!
    • Cont’d Home panel improvements
      • Top Sites panel, History panel
    • Location awareness experiment
    • Activity stream meetings
  • iOS
    • Menu is in development!
    • Consolidation of History-related panels
    • Tabs management
    • Addition of ‘Home’ navigation option
    • Bookmarks Management
  • UR
    • Welcome Sharon Bautista! (:sharon)

QA

Feature Focus


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9-March-2016

Thunderbird: 2016-03-08

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Thunderbird notes 2016-03-08. NOON PT (Pacific). For meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings

Attendees

marcoagpinto, rkent, Paenglab, ba, Jorg K, aceman, mkmelin, wsmwk,MakeMyDay, Fallen

Action items from last meetings

Current status / Announcements

Current Release Critical Issues

Leave critical bugs here until confirmed fixed. If confirmed, then remove.

blocking

  • bug 1224846 (esr45) – TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | toolkit/components/osfile/tests/xpcshell/test_read_write.js
    • Fallen?
  • bug 1250723 (esr45) – startup CRASH: C-C TB ASSERTION: can’t be your own parent aka morkTable::AddRow (v45 topcrash)
    • rkent is taking this, reproducible result of exceeding limit of key size
  • bug 1251120 (esr45)- crash in nsMsgI18NConvertFromUnicode (v45 topcrash)
    • We really need a reproducible case, individual messages don’t do the trick. (wsmwk reproduces 100%)
  • bug 1211291 (esr38, unknown in esr45) – Folders are visible, but messages are not. (?related to bug 1211358 lightning chrome.manifest not updated in 38.3.0 ?)
    • nobody has a clue about what to do with this, leaning toward shipping 38.7.0 with not fix. (wsmwk) agree, ship without fixing it
  • Bug 1162148 – Warning: Identity file /builds/.ssh/{ffxbld_rsa,tbirdbld_dsa} not accessible: No such file or directory (won’t be needed after esr38, fixed in 42) – status?
  • Problems updating to 38.6 to do with Lightning bug 1249894 and its five duplicates. Two users attached their extensions folder.
    • Isn’t this the same as the one above, bug 1211291?

important (but not top critical)

  • status TBD – bug 1182629 – update to 38.1.0 from 38.0.1 re-enables disabled Lightning
  • status TBD – bug 1176399 – Multiple master password when GMail OAuth2 is enabled
  • status TBD – bug 1176748 – fix main thread proxies to the migration code (jorgk and m_kato helped in past)
  • proxy (eg causing foxyproxy problems)
  • topcrash bug 1149287 is ** 31% of our crashes** – see below

Version 45

  • tracking-tb45 flags: unfixed ?/+ – http://mzl.la/1PMzNiK
  • Items that may need to be checked and tested: gtk3, windows 10

Releases

  • Past
    • 44.0b1 2016-01-18
    • 45.0b1 2016-02-04 with GTK3 built but updates not enabled
    • 45.0b2 with GTK2 2016-02-19
    • 38.6.0 2016-02-12

Lightning

Past releases:

  • 4.0.5.1 (bundled)
  • 4.0.5.2 (AMO)

Upcoming releases:

  • 4.0.6 (bundled) (TB 38.6)
  • 4.7.0 – bug 1225778 (TB 45 tracking)

Round Table

wsmwk

  • filed new crashes
    • bug 1253855 – crash in nsContentIterator::NextNode (v45 potential topcrash)
    • bug 1251120 – crash in nsMsgI18NConvertFromUnicode (v45 topcrash)
  • sorting related support issues:
    • bug 1246269 – Old Thunderbird versions are not updating.
    • bug 1249216 – SUMO landing page for “Help” could be for better
    • bug 1239386 – Thunderbird start page is outdated

Jorg K

  • Landed:
    • bug 1233935 – Bustage fix (nsAutoPtr – take 2)
    • bug 1250010 – M-C: Type-in style not applied to empty paragraphs
    • bug 1251408 – External images not displayed in reply/forward
    • bug 1251783 – Forwarding multipart message with bad structure doesn’t detect charset
    • bug 1254596 – Reply with selection doesn’t work any more (regression from the DOM windows stuff)
  • Awaiting review:

clokep [not in meeting]

rkent

  • Making our case to Mozilla
  • Leadership

Help Wanted

  • Accessibility lead
  • Person comfortable (not necessarily technical experts) with Core type issues. Example, graphics to guide bug 1195947 Thunderbird hardware acceleration (HWA) issues to be resolved

8-March-2016

Mozilla Project: 2016-03-07

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All-hands Status Meeting Agenda

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  • Thank you to Nino Vranešič for keeping the app review queues to 0–your dedication to the community is an inspiration.

Upcoming Events

Tuesday, 08 March

  • First meeting of revived Add-on SDK planning meeting. We’ll talk about Add-on SDK status and triage through the outstanding bugs. 10pm PST Vidyo add-ons room

Wednesday, 09 March

Speakers

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Jorge Villalobos Add-ons Breakthroughs in the Add-on Review Queues Costa Rica (remote) no Blog post
Wander Costa (wcosta) Taskcluster Adding Taskcluster tasks to try Brazil (remote) no Airmozilla Presentation video (the talk is this video)
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Welcome!

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Introducing New Volunteers

New Volunteer Introduced by Speaker location New Volunteer location Will be working on
Who is the new volunteer? Who will be introducing that person? Where is the introducer? Where will the new person be contributing from? What will the new person be working on?

Introducing New Hires

New Hire Introduced by Speaker location New Hire location Will be working on
Grisha Kruglov Margaret Leibovic Toronto Vancouver Firefox for Android
Christy Tuescher Michelle Marovich San Francisco San Francisco Recruiting
Sharon Bautista Madhava Enros Toronto Chicago (Remote) Firefox UX – User Research

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Notes and non-voice status updates that aren’t part of the live meeting go here.

Status Updates By Team (*non-voice* updates)

Connected Devices

The first four projects to come out of the innovation process were announced on March 1st with close collaboration between marketing, product, engineering and participation, creating a “single source of truth” that anchored the media coverage and trafficked interest to the respective wiki pages. This also was the first utilization of the branding process for innovations; note that each project was introduced with “Project” in their name, and none used any branding like “Fox”, “Fire”, “(Z)illa” or “Moz”. Highlights include:

Wiki Updates: Marketing worked with PMs to create project abstracts and “infoboxes” for each wiki page, making the next layer of content easily consumable by media and the public. Marketing, ePM, Product and Participation continue to populate these and the related pages to ensure they’re useful, and deliver on our promise to innovate in the open.

Engagement

Events

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3-March-2016

Mobile: 2016-03-02

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Schedule

Topics for This Week

Friends of the Mobile Team

Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs. Make sure friends also get awarded a badge. New contributors are highlighted in bold. Want to update this section?

  • Andi-Bogdan Postelnicu fixed bug 1252082 – [Static Analysis][Dereference null return value] In function ReadingListHelper::fetchContent
  • Angel Bouzo fixed bug 1194033 – Change color of pressed state for list items in home panels to about_page_header_grey
  • Pete Chambers fixed bug 1140970 – Move icons in Reader View controls up 2px
  • Sotaro Ikeda [:sotaro] fixed bug 1251155 – Remove GLContext from VideoDataDecoder
  • dlim fixed bug 1231549 – Set default profile endpoint server URI for Firefox Accounts not created via the web flow
  • hennes fixed bug 1223890 – Constraint errors in history panel
  • malayaleecoder fixed bug 1219323 – Remove unnecessary table created check from BrowserDatabaseHelper
  • raunaqabhyankar fixed bug 1188198 – Remove m prefix from ThemedView.java.frag template & generate results
  • varunnaganathan912 fixed bug 1236387 – Limit length of returned search history suggestions

Team Updates

Android platform

snorp, jchen, rbarker, esawin, droeh

Android front-end

margaret, liuche, mcomella, sebastian, ahunt (nalexander/rnewman)

iOS

st3fan, bmunar, bnicholson, fluffyemily, jhugman, sleroux

Builds & Releases

  • Firefox for iOS 2.1 in review – minor bugfix update. Brings back third-party keyboards. Fixes some small regressions.
  • Firefox for iOS 3.0 branched, we are getting a new TestFlight channel ready to send out a new build
    • Bi-directional Bookmark Sync landed. Although we are starting to test this one-way to find out the quality/state of people’s sync data
      • Adding some basic (Adjust based) telemetry to the TF builds to decide if and when we are going to enable full sync
      • For now you should see no change in behavior from 2.0, but everything under the hood has changed.
    • Touch ID & Passcode on Logins Manager
    • Alexa top 5
    • Include top domains in autocomplete results
    • Safari parity for third-party schemes and ‘special’ URLs
    • Lots of bug fixes and performance improvements
  • L10N builds for 3.0 at https://people.mozilla.org/iosbuilds/l10n.html (is master, but pretty much same now)
  • Schedule at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox_for_iOS_Train_Schedule

Development Updates / Work in Progress

UX

darrin, tecgirl, antlam, gemma

  • Android
    • SF Workweek
    • SFO week!
      • Notification and engagement-related prototyping
      • Bookmarks management, Combined History Panel, linking to screenshots
    • Bugmail catchup
  • iOS
    • Menu is in development!
    • Consolidation of History-related panels
    • Tabs management
    • Addition of ‘Home’ navigation option
    • Bookmarks Management
  • UR
    • Just returned from Germany Workflows research.
    • New user researcher starting Monday.

QA

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2-March-2016

Firefox Status: 2016-03-01

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Actions from last meeting

  • None

General Topics / Roundtable

(tips/tricks/FYI, productivity improvements, industry news)

  • Focus is on e10s test fixing for most of the Desktop Experience team (Dolske+Panos)
    • https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10UeyRoiWV2HjkWwAU51HXyXAV7YLi4BjDm55mr5Xv6c/edit
    • [MattN] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis/e10s_test_tips is useful
      • You can use SpecialPowers.loadChromeScript with a file or function to synchronously run code in the parent from a mochitest. This is very useful for fixing mochitests that were relying on synchronously running code that now needs to be in the parent process. Example: https://reviewboard.mozilla.org/r/36545/diff/3#3
      • [mikedeboer] Assert.jsm is coming to ContentTask! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1241930
    • [RyanVM] Lots of e10s intermittents in Firefox/Toolkit hanging off bug 984139 – http://mzl.la/1SfjpJN
  • [MattN] https://twitter.com/FirefoxNightly is alive again!
  • [florian] Mozilla has been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2016
  • [mconley] We have some Outreachy projects posted as well: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Outreachy
  • [mconley] MozReview double-click commenting was removed, and put into a WebExtension instead: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/rb-doubleclick/
    • The MozReview team is getting together in a few weeks to work on some front-end bugs, specifically for reviewers
    • The MozReview team got some time from UX, and they’re helping them re-think the workflows

Friends of the Firefox team

(Give a shoutout/thanks to people for helping fix and test bugs. Introductions)

  • Resolved bugs (excluding employees): http://mzl.la/1nePqo1
    • More than one bug fixed:
      • Eric Hu
      • Sebastian H. [:aryx][:archaeopteryx]
      • Vidhuran Harichandra Babu

Project Updates

Add-ons

  • Beta 46 will force requiring signed add-ons
    • Any test add-ons in the tree need to be signed or loaded temporarily

E10s

  • Thanks everybody for the big push in helping to make tests work. Highly appreciated.
  • Kan-Ru and his team from Taipei are going to start helping with e10s. blassey is having them work on stability.
  • Some (maybe all?) of our release criteria has been turned into bugs blocking M9: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cf_tracking_e10s%3Am9%2B&list_id=12882807
  • A bunch of us are working on talos regressions
  • A new tab open Talos test is being created
  • E10s rollout plans

Go Faster

Hello

  • Stabilising Hello for various releases.
  • Tested out the Go Faster update system on 45 beta (“empty update”), to a small number of users. As far as we know it was successful.
  • Starting to get a lot of process worked out – working on documenting it as we go.
  • FF 45 will be shipped with “1.0” built in. We are looking at doing an update (aka “1.1”) to 45 users after release.
  • Pointer sharing is now in nightly, click indications coming soon.

Privacy/Security

  • HTTPS sites with user-added security exceptions will now use the grey lock with yellow triangle icon in the identity box and control center (bug 1201437)
  • Added a button to revoke security exceptions in the control center (bug 1220753)

Quality of Experience

  • Bunch of individual bugfixes, mostly…
    • Installer wasn’t pinning to Windows taskbar in some cases, make Firefox stop doing the default-browser prompt if you opted-out in the installer, make the default browser “always ask” pref always apply when Firefox *is* the default browser.
    • Bookmark panel shows on first click now, main bookmark menu shows 5 most-recent bookmarks
    • Onscreen keyboard disabled for Windows 8 in 45
    • Edge bookmark & reading list migration fixes uplifted to 45
  • WIP patches for improved awesomebar results UI and search hijacking remediation
  • Landed and uplifted numerous fixes around startup and shutdown crashes related to Places
  • The Search bar & URL bar unification telemetry experiment concluded, we are now in data gathering phase to determine next steps

SeaMonkey: 2016-03-01

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Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug)
We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

CLOSED

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Notes:
    • Callek is winding down his involvement over the next 12 months. Possible replacement: Adrian Kalla (adriank).
    • Callek: Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I’m hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I’m realistic expecting it won’t be until january at earliest.
    • Ewong will set up a cron job to do semi regular builds on the loaner machine.
      • The loaner machine was decommissioned without notice.
      • Got a new loaner.
    • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
    • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
    • Even en-US builds have stopped again. The latest trunk nightlies were 2.43a1 dated 9-Jan-2016 for L32 & L64, 6-Jan-2016 for Mac, and 2.42a1 dated 11-Nov-2015 for W32. No 2.44a1 yet, to parallel Firefox 47.0a1 which is being published every night (or every day depending on your timezone).
    • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren’t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren’t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
    • For various reasons we don’t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
    • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
  • [2nd February 2016]
    • [Tonymec] Building has stopped since 9 January. No tinderbox builds either. [frg] c-c would be clear to me. c-a pulls the wrong Chatzilla and Inspector again. Not sure if this is the cause. See bug 1167346. [IanN] ewong|away has mentioned looking at Jenkins.
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

  • bug 1213721 is a tracking bug for migration from ftp.m.o to S3 for firefox and thunderbird. There’s a *scary* long list of dependent bugs over there.
    • How close were our staging scripts to Thunderbird’s prior to the S3 migration? They were relatively divergent, primarily because we don’t have signing infrastructure and Thunderbird’s infra uses MoCo firefox infra, and gets a lot of process for free. We should also consult Fallen to see how Thunderbird did the migration and what sort of issues cropped up.
    • Adrian Kalla is still producing his localized builds. Ratty suggests that we should put out a notice on the default SM start page to tell people where they can download the latest 2.4x release builds (Mozilla-release is currently at Firefox 45 which corresponds to SeaMonkey 2.42).
    • IanN suggests we should follow the Thunderbird release model, doing releases off the ESR-* branch but also the occasional comm-beta “release”. L10N Translations might be problematic however rsx11m says using ESR would be “safer” with regard to more stability on releases and not having to cope immediately with bustages from mozilla side, but may require some “deal” to get l10n-relevant minor patches into the releases before the next ESR branch is coming. If you have a patch that applies cleanly from comm-beta to comm-esr45, translations should be done already (of course, that’s just simple patches such as label changes or adding a checkbox). rsx11m would go with {comm,mozilla}-esr45 and merge any “safe” patches from comm-beta but that may need some talking to l10n if string changes are involved.
    • Adriank thinks we need an *own* build infra separate from MoCo. What is needed is a buildbot (Adrian use Jenkins), a Windows, Linux, and OSX virtual machine.
  • SeaMonkey 2.39 was released November 8th, 2015.
  • SeaMonkey 2.40 final (tracking bug 1233615) is in progress: in limbo.
    • 2.40 is currently mired in a swamp so deep it makes the Marianna Trenches look like a shallow pool.
      • Uploading is not the problem. It’s the problem of the following facts:
        • The S3 migration did away with our stage.mo site. (It is gone)
        • Our stage.mo site scripts depended entirely on stage.mo.
        • We need to redo our scripts to play ‘pass the bucket’ on the S3 server, which requires some S3 figuring out.
    • Without Callek, we are stuck.
    • build #4 are up for all platforms and locales
    • Build #5 was tagged February 16th, but no candidate builds yet
      • Build #5 was manually tagged. Not sure there’ll be a build 5.
    • Windows builds aren’t signed yet
    • apparently there is an issue with uploading those builds to the new S3 infrastructure [1] See bug 1223633 and bug 1213721
  • comm-release default moves from 2.41 to 2.42 after the merge.
  • Next merges scheduled for March 7 (February 29th: beta→release).
    • mozilla-release is now on 45.0.
    • both mozilla-esr45 and comm-esr45 are established.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings (outdated), altertative list started (currently Rainer Bielefeld is the only active maintainer)
  • Lightning betas are up for 2.40, 2.41, and 2.42.
  • We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf – it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there’s only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [2].
    • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [3], bug 1145026.
    • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. — Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
    • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
    • The AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, seems mature. (It had 9 successive revisions between 27 September and 3 October, and no change since then.) It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a “built-in extension” besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane; the extension actually does much more than the bug’s Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid “You need Firefox 10 or later” popups.
  • The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
    • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
    • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
    • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
    • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
  • Ratty has the Firefox Devtools up and running. We can now use the Firefox Devtools debugger in both remote and local mode.
    • Venkman is now totally retired R.I.P..

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.40

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (6)
targeted (0)
fixed (15)

2.Next

  • We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
    • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 1209875 did break any builds of 2.41+ containing a localized ChatZilla – bug 1213641 filled
    • No en-US trunk builds later than 30 November yet (or even 11 November on win32). Aurora is currently building on Linux (L32 / L64) only.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Changes to Safe Browsing.
    • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
      • already affected: config.xul for about:config, Will be fixed in SeaMonkey bug 1222816.
      • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 – SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743.
      • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
      • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
      • mozilla-central bug 1189918 and bug 1190465 allow to fork Toolkit style pages for the classic/default/modern theme without harming theme developers. SeaMonkey bug 1022354 will move theme overrides to the theme manifests.
        • affected pages that should be reverted are about:config [bug 1222816], about:addons [bug 1222817], about:support [bug 1222818] (look ok in Modern but hurt in the Default theme).
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
    • We’ve picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
      • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [4]
      • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.
  • bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
    • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there’s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.
    • About specific aspects of this problem, see: bug 1230796, bug 1230804, bug 1230806 and maybe more.
    • [Ratty] The url for the discovery pane is set in a pref. Instantbird points the URL to a chrome XUL document. If we do this we don’t have to worry about the python stuff.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 24 new, 3 fixed, 13 triaged.

  • low-medium triaging effort, average number of new bugs filed.
  • Ratty has a SeaMonkey build with a working Firefox Devtools!!!! For relevant patches see previous meeting notes.
    • Unfortunately changes in DevTools keep bit-rotting my patch and it’s a P.I.T.A. to keep up.
  • Mozilla wants to separate Firefox and Thunderbird, in infrastructure and organizationally, which will likely affect SeaMonkey as well
  • Fundamental core features Firefox/Mozilla plans to remove:
    • bug 1222546 Product plan: remove support for heavyweight themes
      • if effective for all Toolkit applications, would render most 3rd-party themes disfunct
      • no sufficiently plausible specifics provided ‘why’ full themes ‘must’ no longer be supported
      • may prohibit Modern theme being shipped with or installed in SeaMonkey
      • removal is “decided” without any clear alternative envisioned
    • The toolkit help viewer is going away. Neil is working on resuscitating the old XPFE help viewer which apparently has more features.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
    • The HowTo page has been moved to SeaMonkey/QA/Triage HowTo. No one having objected (or even reacted), bug 1092632 is now RESOLVED FIXED. See its comment #18 for the announcement URLs.

Open reviews/flags:
67 review
5 super-review
2 ui-review
13 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • Encrypted Media Extensions / Digital Rights Management
      • bug 1127784 added a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • more work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox
  • What about declaring linux-x86_64 builds found at seamonkey-project.org and at ftp.m.o as “official” ?

On October 7 two people asked in #seamonkey at a few minutes’ interval when there would be “official” 64-bit SM builds for Linux. I pointed them to the x86_64 release at the bottom of the “Other languages” release page for 2.38 and to the x86_64 2.40a2 aurora & 2.41a1 trunk builds at the bottom of the ftp.m.o nightly/latest-comm-* pages but they said these were not “official”.

So — how are we going to get out of the following vicious circle? 64-bit builds are not “official” because too few users, and users don’t install them (some even prefer compiling their own) because they aren’t “official”.

Maybe change the online documentation? (perhaps as part of bug 1208822 “System Requirements page needs update”?)

Tonymec (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2015 (PDT)

  • [ewong:] what’s the prerequisites of making the Linux64 builds ‘official’ aside for the issue of getting the tests done for Linux64; but our testing infrastructure is busted. bug 1209378

— Discussion on locale translations for DOMi and Chatzilla —

  • [frg] Localized Chatzilla builds currently break suite compile starting with 2.41. See bug 1229810 Port bug 1228444 and bug 1228467 to Chatzilla.
  • [IanN] The tagging has fixed the issue for chatzilla before 2.41 but more is needed for 2.41 and above?
  • [frg] Yes. The optional language xpi will not compile in 2.41 and is broken in 2.42 and up. install.rdf missing. The main xpi is fine.
  • [IanN] Can you spin a bug off with the steps to generate the optional language xpi for 2.41 along with any errors, similarly another one for 2.42 and up. If it ends up being the same fix, not a problem, bugs are cheap. just cc me.
  • [IanN] Ratty: do we need to start looking at how to overlay Chatzilla and DOMi on top of the TB’s new merged (c-c + m-c) repository?
  • [Ratty] Not sure. I hope we can continue doing what we have been doing using nested repositories. However in the new merged repository. The comm-central client.py is replaced by the mozilla-central client.py so I don’t know how this will work.
  • [IanN] Merging DOMi into comm-central would make SeaMonkey releases easier. We just need to sort out locale building for DOMi.

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

frg

Waiting for review /feedback:

  • bug 1055954 popup exceptions are not added. Please review and let me know if it’s ok. Contains string changes and clock for next merge day is ticking…
  • bug 1188348 data manager: domains invisible for Permissions, Preferences, Passwords. Please review. Clock for next merge day is also ticking here…

Working on:

  • bug 1238767 Localized Suite build fails in DebugQA: Stalled. I think the l10 build system might be responsible and tries to pick up files from the wrong location. Adrin Kalla thinks I need to do an l10 merge only. I disagree because the xpi only explicitly supports en-US builds.
  • bug 1250600 Update Safebrowsing in Seamonkey for recent changes in Firefox. Follow up bug of bug 920951 Update SeaMonkey Safebrowsing preferences to sync with Mozilla-Central. Seamonkey misses and api key and maybe even a client id.

Otherwise just looking through the unassigned bug list and see what I might be able to fix.

Tidbits (didn’t see the mentiond bugs changed since the last time):

Chatzilla imho only needs one more patch and it should build l10n for 2.41 and up:

Would also need new tags for client.py as stated in:

  • bug 1167346 comm-aurora builds are not building due to DOMi and Chatzilla pulling from revisions earlier…

This might clear up:

  • bug 1244467 Localized Builds: Chatzilla language pack missing from Seamonkey installer package

Other things on my mind:

  • enable-optimize=-O2 should be used for Windows release builds. Linux gcc –enable-optimize optimizes for speed. With VS2013 it optimizes for size. Resulting O2 Windows build feels a lot snappier.
  • Firefox build system seems to change to a python based configure. Check m-c for old-configure.in. Works for now with Seamonkey but might break soon.
  • Alternate distribution path for Seamonkey should be evaluated. It still builds and works fine but without builds in the hands of users doesn’t make much sense.

IanN

  • Usual localising, testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
  • Fixed:
  • Fixed for c-c:
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
  • Pending tree opening:
  • Pending approval for check in:
  • Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
    • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review/information:
    • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 – Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
    • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 – Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with –enable-tests.

Rainer Bielefeld

All postponed to next meeting in favor of more important release and distribution issues:

currently working on
  • Bug reporting and confirmation as usual
  • Improving usability of dictionaries available for SeaMonkey (low priority)
ToDos / Pending

(Discussion required for all)

  • Donating and so on: Current situation very unsatisfying due to unresolved
    • bug 1165707 – Publish information concerning SeaMonkey e.V.
    • bug 1197554 – Balance sheet (statement of accounts) for donations should be published
    • bug 1191707 – Download: redirect users to detour via Donate / Contribute Request web page
I am planning alternative donation, decision today
  • Pogress bundling lomon_juice’s add-on AMO-Browsing-for-SeaMonkey
    • I already have some Ideas for smaller enhnacements. but as far as I know License statement still missing, so we can’t do anything with it. this problem blocks
      • bug 1230722 – Include “AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey”-add-on into SeaMonkey release bundle
      • bug 1224520 – Upload “AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey” to AMO
      • bug 1145026 – AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane
      • bug 1151227 – Add-on Manager discovery pane: add Banner with link to Add-on-converter
Any Ideas?
I want to discuss
Currently for some good reasons we have that guideline, but that, of course, requires that owners decide within acceptable time.

  • Example for the problem: bug 56418 – [SM] add folder column so bookmark search results shows where bookmark is in folder hierarchy
  • Suggestion: If a QA volunteer contributes plausible reasons that a bug deserves WONTFIX, he adds the Module Owner to CC and asks for decision: WONTFIX, Assign to someone or at least adds a possible Assignee to CC. For practicability reasons the QA volunteer will do an own decision if within 30 days there is no clear statement that SeaMonkey will do a fix (and be able to do a fix).
  • Basics: I saw “This page was last modified on 3 February 2013, at 05:42.” – that is not inspiring confidence. Can someone with competence drop some outdated contents?

Nevertheless I will launch an alternative donation method until end of this week

Ratty

Fixed:

  • bug 1224907 Bookmarks Manager Search box is missing in SeaMonkey 2.3.9.

Needs review:

  • bug 1235805 Rollup patch: Add preload content policy types for images (bug 1048048) Use the loading document’s principal to populate loadInfo for Favicons instead of using systemPrincipal (bug 1119386) nsITaskbarPreview::Invalidate no longer throws when not visible.
  • bug 1222816 Restore about:config UI (Config Editor) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit’s Project Chameleon styles.
  • bug 1238428 Workaround the NS_APP_PROFILE_DEFAULTS_{NLOC_,}50_DIR directory keys removed in bug 1234012.

In Progress:

  • bug 1223341 Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI.

TODO:

  • Long list of bugs I want to fix but realistically speaking I don’t have the time to even look at things.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
    • Spent some time burning down my review queue. Not too successful.
    • Helped to onboard a new contributor or two.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Waiting for comm-aurora/beta approval:

  • bug 1245110 Remove help about (now removed) “Ask for each cookie” option in preferences dialog.

Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 851898 Zoom will not go past 300%, used to be able to zoom to +/-800%.

Spun off:

  • bug 1251874 Allow modification of minimum/maximum zoom levels in Content preference pane.

May need retargeting:

  • bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

tonymec

  • Not much this fortnight, QA business as usual.
  • I learnt that to fix a “good first bug” in Toolkit you must have either or both of the resources to compile your own Firefox, or “Level 1” push permissions (to push to Try). In the case at hand, mother-language-level knowledge of both XUL and -moz- extensions to CSS would have been a very serious plus. ;-/
    • (“Experience is what you get when you don’t get what you wanted.”)
  • To Rainer above, about the WONTFIX resolution:
    • I’d prefer to play by Mozilla rules even though it seems possible that we won’t be a Mozilla product much longer. At least it makes it easier to go back and forth between Seamonkey specific bugs and shared-code bugs.
    • It used to be that the official Mozilla policy was that only an owner or peer could set WONTFIX. (I can’t find back the page which said that.) The current MDN wording is that a developer decides that the bug can’t or won’t be fixed. At least owners ans peers are well-defined terms: see the SeaMonkey project areas page or the All Modules page. But who is or isn’t a “developer”? An owner, peer, or Council member probably is one; a “New to Bugzilla” person probably isn’t; but I don’t see a clear-cut boundary. One possible definition is «someone who habitually writes patches, and can even fix “non-good-first” bugs». Rainer seems to have a wider definition in mind.
    • Maybe different rules can be set for SeaMonkey. Since Neil is the official project owner, his opinion would carry quite some weight; though by past experience he seems to prefer playing King Log than King Stork.

Any other business?

  • Daylight Saving Time coming up (again…) on March 13; then Summer Time on March 27; winter time on 3 April in NZ and some parts of Australia; no clock change in East and South Asia; etc.

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

1-March-2016

Mozilla Project: 2016-02-29

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am
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All-hands Status Meeting Agenda

Items in this section will be shared during the live all-hand status meeting.

Friends of Mozilla

  • Congrats to Johann Hofmann, our newest Friend of Add-ons! Johann is the author of Emoji Cheatsheet, and has been active in contributing to WebExtensions. Thanks Johann!
  • Thanks to Gabriel Micko, Mozilla Tech Speaker from the Moz Hungary community, who traveled to Minsk, Belarus a couple weekends ago, to represent Mozilla at the Rolling Scopes dev conference when one of our staffers had to cancel – gave a talk about WebRTC, demo’ed WebVR and wowed the attendees!

Upcoming Events

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Tuesday, 01 March

Wednesday, 02 March

Project Status Updates (voice updates)

Connected Devices

John Bernard (London office)

Panasonic announce Firefox OS on 2016 4K Pro Ultra HD Smart TV range. Blog post out TODAY. http://news.panasonic.co.uk/pressreleases/panasonic-unveils-next-generation-of-tv-technology-with-2016-line-up-of-4k-pro-ultra-hd-tvs-1327623

Mobile World Congress (MWC) Update.

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per topic. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation. If you plan on showing a video, you need to contact the Air Mozilla team before the day of the meeting or you will be deferred to the next week. The meeting is streamed in a 4:3 format in order to allow for split screen. If your slides are 16:9 “widescreen” format, please indicate in the “Sharing” column below.

Presenter Title Topic Location Sharing Media More Details
Who Are You? What Do You Do? What are you going to talk about? Where are you presenting from? (Moz Space, your house, space) Will you be sharing your screen? (yes/no, 4:3 or 16:9) Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen Link to where audience can find out more information
Brett Gaylor Director, Open Web Fellows Program Update on Mozilla Foundation’s encryption campaign Remote Yes https://goo.gl/SXHxPe mzl.la/encrypt
Bill Walker Senior Manager, Web App Developer Initiative (WADI) Update on recent web app workshop in MTV MTV No https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcFE59uVAAAtC-F.jpg:large http://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps and https://github.com/owencm/ModernWebSummitWorkshop
Larissa Shapiro Senior Program Manager, Diversity and Inclusion Outreachy Applications now open! MTV No http://wiki.mozilla.org/Outreachy
Mike Hoye Engineering Community Manager Bug Triage expansion MoTo No No

Welcome!

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Introducing New Volunteers

New Volunteer Introduced by Speaker location New Volunteer location Will be working on
Who is the new volunteer? Who will be introducing that person? Where is the introducer? Where will the new person be contributing from? What will the new person be working on?

Introducing New Hires

New Hire Introduced by Speaker location New Hire location Will be working on
Justin Terry Mary Colvig Audio New York Paid Media

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